Stroke patient, 75, died as she lay helpless in hospital bed *content warning - sexual assault MNHQ*

[FightingtheFoo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9563237/Stroke-patient-75-died-sexually-assaulted-lay-helpless-hospital-bed.html

"A stroke patient 'died after being sexually assaulted' as she lay ill in a hospital bed, an inquest heard.
Valerie Kneale had been admitted to Blackpool Victoria Hospital following a stroke and had later broken her leg when falling from a chair.
The 75-year-old's condition deteriorated and she died four days later.

A male hospital worker was arrested on suspicion of murder, rape and sexual assault and has since been bailed pending further inquiries.
Opening the inquest, coroner for Blackpool and Fylde Alan Wilson said: 'Concerns had been raised about a potential injury around the genital area.
'This prompted a police investigation by Lancashire Constabulary.'

The autopsy revealed that although Mrs Kneale did have a significant stroke, the pathologist did not think it was the cause of death.
Mr Wilson said: 'She said that was due to an internal and external haemorrhage which was in turn due to a vaginal laceration or tear.'

The pathologists' report believed it was caused by a sexual assault after she was admitted to hospital.
Mrs Kneale died on November 16, 2018."

I am just full of rage. She was at her most vulnerable and was failed, yet again, by the system. We should be marching.

I am so fucking sick of hearing about such abhorrent violence against women.

Wtf is going on

Poor poor woman.

@RedDogsBeg

- Single sex wards

• chaperones for all male staff dealing with female patients
• only female staff to administer personal care to female patients

Yes, a million times yes. Easy, simple, straightforward. If men don't like it, tough shit.

I was hospitalised in a.n.other country and no male attended me without a female in tow.

This

It can be done and yes structural and cultural changes to promote safeguarding.

If all staff are taught as part of their safeguarding training that women’s personal care must only be done by female staff and that male staff must be chaperoned that will become the culture. Swipe cards to enter wards can be area specific so that only designated staff can enter particular areas and others need to buzz in. Yes definitely every ward should have a clerk 9-5. I agree that private rooms present a greater risk.

In schools all staff know that they must never be alone behind a closed door with a child. If a child needs personal care then two members of female staff should provide that care.

We do have established safeguarding practices which can be applied.

It shouldn’t be an unrealistic expectation that the NHS would prioritise safety and dignity.

Well we don't even have single sex wards anymore in the NHS. The chief nurse let/agreed to change to single (self identified) gender. Thanks love. Not. Who influenced her and why? I'm so sad she agreed.

Regarding male midwives

“Inform women that continuous support during labour from women, with or without prior training, reduces the likelihood of caesarean birth. [2004]”

I wonder how many women know this.

I know that male midwives know it, I wonder how they justify their career choice given that knowledge.

Can anyone explain why the ONS would put an upper age limit on respondents? Thank you. I've googled the question, but can't find an explanation.

@TheHandmadeTail

A murder inquiry was launched and information relating to other allegations of serious sexual assaults against two patients were received, in addition to the sexual assault of a health care professional working on the stroke unit.

The worker arrested has been suspended by Blackpool Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust. The arrest is not linked to the ongoing investigation into allegations of poisoning and neglect.

This is horrific. The poor woman. But also what is going on at this hospital??

AND poisoning going on??????!!!!!!!

Why was this and the rapes not announced on all the national news programmes?

This is not about sex it was about complete power over another human being.

I'm not going to be popular saying this, but older I get the more appealing corporal punishment becomes. There is no deterrent for this type of behaviour

@AwFeebs

I am so fucking sick of hearing about such abhorrent violence against women.

Wtf is going on

Poor poor woman.

I simply cannot even conceive of the trauma involved for a woman who was being raped to the point where she was haemorrhaging and she could do nothing about it.

Absolute fucking fucker.

@DaisiesandButtercups

Regarding male midwives

“Inform women that continuous support during labour from women, with or without prior training, reduces the likelihood of caesarean birth. [2004]”

I wonder how many women know this.

I know that male midwives know it, I wonder how they justify their career choice given that knowledge.

I had a male midwife for my second delivery, he was wonderful. Much better than the awful ones I had for my first delivery. But I was given the choice not to have him, and I think that's key.

I'm not sure what would help with preventing this happening again. I wouldn't expect a single sex ward to be single sex staff. I'm also not sure how the NHS would function if that were the case, there aren't enough male nurses to staff the male wards and there's not enough female doctors in all specialities. Chaperones would work, though there's then the issue of having more people than necessary examining/ looking at you, and for it to work the chaperone really does have to watch exactly what's happening. Chaperones just sat in the corner of the room don't work, it's too easy to cover up an inappropriate touch.

I am glad that your second birth was a better experience for you than your first teenagewhore.
I think that a general rule applies despite the exception.

I would expect to have only female nurses and support workers on women’s wards.

Doctors are often assisted by nursing or support staff and the female support staff can act as a chaperone in the case of a male doctor.

I think it is fairly clear that men are not at risk from female staff to the same degree as women are from male staff and that in fact many men feel comfortable with female health professionals sometimes even more so than male health professionals.

And here's yet another example of the abysmal standards of medical malpractice that women are subjected to by toxic male doctors in the NHS. And of course, he's not been struck off as is so common in these situations:
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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d02a69b2-b26c-11eb-9055-64edaa2be8dd?shareToken=45ec782f6603fd1c288cb29cba30a1e6

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So there is arguably not the same need of male only nurses and support workers for men’s wards.

Having read the article shared by persistentwoman

I stand by the proposal I made on a previous thread that in future only women should be permitted to specialise in gynaecology and obstetrics.

That poor woman and her poor family.

And the man has been bailed. How?

The only thing that makes them a ‘man’ is their penis. This specimen is no man. He’s a raping, cowardly stain on humanity.

If these ‘men’ are so intent on raping women, they deserve to have that appendage taken away.

I’m all for human rights. Rapists do not deserve rights.

@Ivebeeninlockdowntoolong

Stroke patient, 75, died after being raped as she lay helpless in hospital bed

Ugh! This is what is so wrong with how all these cases are reported. Look at this headline again. So who raped this poor woman? Not clear from the original headline, is it? How about instead the media started to report headlines according to the truth: -

Man rapes Stroke patient, 75, as she lay helpless in hospital bed who then died.

All too often, we know the perpetrators are men but the media are always coy about owning it - they imply that these things just happen from nowhere in particular. It makes me so cross.

Change that headline again.

Man rapes vulnerable patient who was helpless recovering from a stroke, woman died later from an injury from that rape.

She didn't die from the stroke.

Why is he protected? Not saying if it was a porter or a doctor?

[quote persistentwoman]And here's yet another example of the abysmal standards of medical malpractice that women are subjected to by toxic male doctors in the NHS. And of course, he's not been struck off as is so common in these situations:
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Dr Magnus Harrison, executive medical director at the trust, said: “I want to make a full and unreserved apology to all those women who have identified as being harmed.”.

Bold is mine. Very strange wording.

Doctors are often assisted by nursing or support staff and the female support staff can act as a chaperone in the case of a male doctor.

Surely that should be choice though if you have capacity to make it. Obviously it should be standard, so shouldn't have to be requested (as is the current model), but you should have the right to refuse?

Surely it should be "those women who have identified themselves as having been harmed"? But I would use "come forward" rather than "identified" there as well.

@MrsTidyHouse

Can anyone explain why the ONS would put an upper age limit on respondents? Thank you. I've googled the question, but can't find an explanation.

The cynic in me (especially considering the previous even lower age) suspects it's to do with mysoginy and assumptions about a woman's attractiveness and sexuality. A lot of people , including policy and law makers ignore the fact that rape is never about sex.

What that limit says is that currently no one would want to rape an 80 yo woman, or if they did it would be so minimal it wouldn't even register in the statistics. That assumption completely negates rape as an act of power.

I did not know about that age limit. Wtf

My mother is a healthy, active, independent woman, still very attractive at 73. In two years time, if she were god forbid to be sexually assaulted, they wouldn't count that in their statistics? What? Why?

This has made me physically sick.
What is the reason he hasn't been charged? Are the police even pursuing this case? Does anyone know how to find out that information?

*Dr Magnus Harrison, executive medical director at the trust, said: “I want to make a full and unreserved apology to all those women who have identified as being harmed.”.

Bold is mine. Very strange wording.*

Thats... incredibly odd and I wonder if it's a misprint - "those women who have BEEN identified as being harmed"?

What that limit says is that currently no one would want to rape an 80 yo woman, or if they did it would be so minimal it wouldn't even register in the statistics. That assumption completely negates rape as an act of power.

So why even have an age limit at all? I can't make sense of it. There must be some attempted 'rationale' somewhere?

I can't find the link now but I read on the ONS website that it was considered too upsetting for elderly women to report - the Crime Survey for England and Wales is created from individuals reporting crimes they have experienced.

@GCAcademic

Why has the thread title been changed to completely obliterate any mention of the horrific act of male violence that caused this poor woman's death? We really are not allowed to speak of male violence are we? She just happened to die as she lay helpless in bed? WTAF?

It's what Bitheby said: the suspect is legally not guilty until proven guilty and reporting and commentary that presumes guilt could compromise the trial.

The papers might be able to headline with "Man charged with raping woman, 75, to death". But they can't say "man rapes" until there's a guilty verdict.

This has happened before and it is going to happen again. I’m really starting to believe that the only option is to disallow men to work unsupervised near incapacitated or otherwise vulnerable female patients.