More on Schools and Guidance (EHRC Shelving Guidance and LGBTYS guidance questioned)

[rogdmum]

It’s quite the day for coverage.

In England, the EHRC has quietly shelved their guidance:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/09/transgender-guidelines-girls-schools-quietly-scrapped-equalities/

(Can anyone archive it? I’m crap at doing so)

And ScotGov are warned that schools and councils are at risk of legal action if they affirm pupils without parental knowledge/consent

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/guidance-to-schools-on-transgender-acknowledgement-breaches-law-r39whlmk7

(My share token thingie doesn’t seem to be working, cam anyone else create one?)

Here's the Telegraph article.

archive.md/Ap2As

It has become clearer and clearer that the law is to be ignored in all circumstances where LGBTQ is concerned and governments think that's ok. I believe the reason for this is that SNP needs the student vote and has to therefore appear progressive. I would prefer to live in a democracy.

As far as the rest goes, going backwards is a better step than propelling forward into a further dilution of protections and rights for women and girls

The Sunday Times are on fire today - so many good articles.

"But the CPS and Oxfordshire County Council withdrew their guides after two teenage girls alleged privacy violations at the High Court. Other councils have since pulled theirs."

It probably goes without saying, but how horrendous that two girls had to go down the route of such a formal complaint in order to protect themselves and others.

Mark Lehain, a headteacher until 2017 and now director of the Campaign for Common Sense, said heads were “trying to mediate between what a student wants or their family wants, where the law is and where guidance is”.
“It is not always clear what the right thing to do is,” he said.

Seems quite clear to me. For example:

A girl who formally transitions to boy must be allowed to stay at the girls school, or this would be "direct gender reassignment discrimination"

Likewise, a boy who formally transitions to girl must be allowed to stay at the boys school, and the other boys taught to treat that student's choices with the same respect they would wish for themselves. Ie no mocking or bullying.

The only difficulty would be regarding coerced speech.

An EHRC spokesman said: "Considering the lack of definitive case law, it has become clear that publishing our guidance may not provide schools with the clarity we hoped.

Just days after they argued against Ann Sinnott's JR request!

What the fuck are they for exactly?

Presumably LangClegsInSpace the EHRC do not have the confidence that insisting girls must undress for swimming lessons in front of boys self identifying as girls or share dormitories with them would be a legally defensible position?
They have been threatening to produce these guidelines for years but presumably after seeing the CPS's humiliation when threatened with judicial scrutiny, decided not to?
And maybe the grip that Stonewall has on our government institutions is being slowly released? hopeful.......

@LangClegsInSpace

An EHRC spokesman said: "Considering the lack of definitive case law, it has become clear that publishing our guidance may not provide schools with the clarity we hoped.

Just days after they argued against Ann Sinnott's JR request!

What the fuck are they for exactly?

LAs passed the buck onto the EHRC to publish the definitive guide, based on their knowledge/expertise, on how schools should be balancing the rights of all pupils, not just gender non conforming pupils. And now they think that's too difficult? WTF? 🤦🏻‍♀️

Here’s an archive link for the S Times article on the LGBTYS guidance

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2021.05.09-002716/www.thetimes.co.uk/article/guidance-to-schools-on-transgender-acknowledgement-breaches-law-r39whlmk7" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">archive.is/2021.05.09-002716/www.thetimes.co.uk/article/guidance-to-schools-on-transgender-acknowledgement-breaches-law-r39whlmk7

Saw this. The EHRC is completely confused, or I am, or both.