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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Angela Rayner sacked as Labour Party chair & national campaigns co-ordinator

23 replies

Cwenthryth · 08/05/2021 19:32

labourlist.org/2021/05/angela-rayner-sacked-as-labour-party-chair-and-national-campaign-coordinator/

And Momentum aren’t happy, quelle surprise. Seems the right direction to me though.

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CaveMum · 08/05/2021 19:44

I wonder how much her being one of the key instigators of the “woke agenda” is connected to this...

PostLockdownLife · 08/05/2021 19:46

Maybe the bepenised women will look after her on their bench as she kept seats warm for them.

Moonstone1234 · 08/05/2021 19:54

She gives the impression she doesn’t really know what is talking about and seems to reveal in being a grandmother at 35.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/05/2021 20:05

Rumours that nandy is going to be sacked too

DysonSphere · 08/05/2021 20:08

Why is it the right direction?

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 08/05/2021 20:12

@DysonSphere

Why is it the right direction?
Because maybe Starmer is finally realising that MPs who want to kick women out of the Labour Party for stating that biological sex is a thing and who call Woman's Place a hate group aren't really an election winner?
JustSpeculation · 08/05/2021 20:18

The Grauniad has said this will kick off Labour's civil war again. This strikes me as probably true. Starmer is an intelligent man, and must know this. Therefore, it seems reasonable to assume that he has chosen this moment to do it. This is a popcorn moment.

OvaHere · 08/05/2021 20:31

I'd be cautious about reading too much into this. It stands to reason that following a disastrous campaign the campaign manager would be fired/asked to step down. It also shifts some of the criticism away from Starmer. She is still the Deputy Leader and the BBC is reporting she will be given another shadow cabinet position.

Moonstone1234 · 08/05/2021 20:40

It’s such a shame that women in lower cannot see that all women need a safe space whether that be a changing room or more radically a prison. Could someone explain why it’s sensible to allow men to self ID? I am really not being goody - I truly do not understand why a women would think this isn’t open to abuse.

What if a few young men who have had a few lemonades then decide to go into say a Marks and Spencer’s women’s changing room and state they are now identifying as women? Those poor staff trying to keep to the woke agenda whilst at the same time keeping other women safe?

Moonstone1234 · 08/05/2021 20:44

Lower = power

houseonthehill · 08/05/2021 20:50

Hm. Bloke says he will take full responsibility, then finds a woman to sack. It's a bit "Do it to Julia, not me!"

Mollyollydolly · 08/05/2021 21:07

Shame I'm blocked by her on twitter. Can't commiserate with her. Oh well. She was the Campaign Manager so I cant say I'm surprised.

WarriorN · 08/05/2021 21:28

Why is Nandy out of favour?

IanHBuckells · 08/05/2021 21:33

She was campaign manager -campaign was a disaster ergo the firing.

She's a grafter but there's nothing to revel in being a grandparent at 35. She could have used her position and life experience to much better end I think. I refuse to support her simply because she's a woman when some of her own, quite recent, actions have damaged the rights of women across the country.

zanahoria · 08/05/2021 21:37

I do not thinknit is huge, more of a subtle power play to test the water.

Trappedonanisland · 08/05/2021 21:49

Good move . Dreadful woman with no talented whatsoever

DysonSphere · 08/05/2021 22:19

Because maybe Starmer is finally realising that MPs who want to kick women out of the Labour Party for stating that biological sex is a thing and who call Woman's Place a hate group aren't really an election winner?

Oh I see. Thanks for explaining @StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind

houseonthehill · 08/05/2021 22:21

Rule #1: Women are responsible for what men do.

MaMaLa321 · 08/05/2021 22:40

excellent. She is dreadful

Tanith · 08/05/2021 22:59

Good. She's awful and always has been.
As for "women are responsible..." this woman was responsible for the election campaign, for pushing TWAW at every opportunity she could and for signing that ridiculous Trans pledge when she was running for leadership.

Women are responsible for their own idiocy.

houseonthehill · 09/05/2021 07:21

Yes, she's fully on board with TWAW etc. and that's not good. But it has been widely reported that she wasn't permitted to do her campaign job properly- too much control freakery from the Centre, demanding Union Jacks etc. , and she has also been sacked as Party Chair. It is clearly an attempt to shift blame onto a convenient female scapegoat, and it's cowardly and shit. The whole thing feels very familiar.

Abhannmor · 09/05/2021 13:47

@houseonthehill

Yes, she's fully on board with TWAW etc. and that's not good. But it has been widely reported that she wasn't permitted to do her campaign job properly- too much control freakery from the Centre, demanding Union Jacks etc. , and she has also been sacked as Party Chair. It is clearly an attempt to shift blame onto a convenient female scapegoat, and it's cowardly and shit. The whole thing feels very familiar.
That's what I'm hearing. The architect of the campaign is Jenny Chapman who insisted on parachuting the wrong candidate into Hartlepool. Rayner had very little input apparently. I doubt Twaw has anything to do with this. Obviously Steer Calmer thinks purging ' the left' will give Daily Mail readers a hard on. Whereas it just smacks of panic. Maybe dump the media tarts and focus groups. Labour are going great in Manchester, Salford, Preston, Bristol, they know something you don't matey.
Marmaladeagain · 09/05/2021 13:58

Lisa Nandy - heard her say same on trans women are women in the leadership campaign trail. I’m not a Labour voter but was very disappointed - would have credited her with mind of her own til then.

Someone needs to get in control of the ‘wrong/correct think’ agenda for everyone’s good, irrespective of party politics.

A Labour Party with basic common sense is critical otherwise the agenda is seeping in through schools etc, without Labour even being in power. That’s the biggest travesty, no-one even voted them in on those policies but changing of public policy at small scale every day which gradually builds to where we are today with girls privacy being invaded.

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