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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

11 year old kid in America took gun to school, shoots

27 replies

toffeebutterpopcorn · 08/05/2021 08:55

Not wanting to get into who this child is... I heard it mentioned in the radio last night.

11 though - that’s so young to have so much anger (reports - not confirmed - have been made that this child was the bully/aggressor and not a bullied kid). You know if you about someone there’s a change you will kill them.

What is making kids so aggressive - social media? Popular culture? Anime type memes showing cutesy characters with guns? Hormones in milk?

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Shedbuilder · 08/05/2021 09:24

This is the feminism board, you might do better on Chat or Parenting.

NutellaEllaElla · 08/05/2021 09:37

I dunno, it feels like a white male violence issue to me. It's over 90% white male perpetrators isn't it?

poundoflard · 08/05/2021 09:38

Social media hate.

So much hate on this forum too sadly. Its everywhere.

jclm · 08/05/2021 09:39

Mental health issues?

NutellaEllaElla · 08/05/2021 09:40

Scratch that, I just googled and it's more like 53% white males. 17% African American and 8% Latino.

CherieBabySpliffUp · 08/05/2021 09:44

@Shedbuilder

This is the feminism board, you might do better on Chat or Parenting.
Maybe the OP posted it here due to the sex of the child with the gun?
PinkPlantCase · 08/05/2021 09:51

The 11 year old was a girl!

TheHomeEdit · 08/05/2021 09:54

The point is that the early reports and pictures identified the shooter as male, yet later reports said a girl.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 08/05/2021 09:55

Regardless of sex, and being in no way a professional...

At that age I thonk a lot must have been going on in the background. My first thought was bullying leading to her just snapping. Coupled with easier access to a deadly weapon...

Hopefully they will get the help they need now, not just punishment.

Trixie78 · 08/05/2021 10:42

Still not sure why this is on the feminism board regardless of the sex of the child 🤨

exwhyzed · 08/05/2021 10:50

@Trixie78

Still not sure why this is on the feminism board regardless of the sex of the child 🤨
Because there seems to be some confusion over the sex of the child and I'm not aware of any other school shootings that have primarily been committed by a girl, so it would be a very unusual case if the crimes have indeed been committed by a girl.

If the child's sex isn't female but is being reported as such and an indication that this will be recorded as a violent crime committed by a girl when I think that is definitely something people may want to discuss within the context of women's concerns?

But don't we don't know if that's case. It may be as simple that reports have assumed it's a male and then have had to change when it's been confirmed as a girl.

Again a topic for discussion as to why it is almost been entirely male adolescents in America that have so often committed these sort of crimes.

Deliriumoftheendless · 08/05/2021 10:55

Brenda Spencer was 16 when she shot children and teachers at an elementary school in San Diego in 1979, that’s the only other one I can think of off the top of my head.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 08/05/2021 10:58

Yes the sex of the child seems to be hazy... it’s very muddled (as reporting often is these days).

Feminist section - either a female child committing what is usually a ‘male crime’ (why is this the case, how did it come about), a female child on medication that may have contributed to emotional issues/aggression, or a child who IDs as female (thereby the crime being added to the ‘female crime’ stats).

Or - the fact that we hear about a crime by a girl/woman these days and look to find a photo, just to ‘see’.

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RebeccaOfSunnyHellFarm · 08/05/2021 13:01

Isn't the song I don't like Mondays about a girl shooter?
And yes, mainly shootings, stabbings etc. are a male violence problem. A few female cases exist.

RebeccaOfSunnyHellFarm · 08/05/2021 13:05

118 mass shootings in USA since 1982.
4 carried out by females. I'm not sure what that is as a percentage but very low.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/05/2021 13:09

@RebeccaOfSunnyHellFarm

Isn't the song I don't like Mondays about a girl shooter? And yes, mainly shootings, stabbings etc. are a male violence problem. A few female cases exist.
It's about the aforementioned Brenda Ann Spencer.
toffeebutterpopcorn · 08/05/2021 13:18

There was a woman who went into a Facebook office and shot some people, then herself. I’m sure this was listed as a female crime but there was confusion at the time as to her sex. It’s been reported that she was born male.

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Shedbuilder · 08/05/2021 13:49

CherieBabySpliffUp, Maybe the OP posted it here due to the sex of the child with the gun?

No mention of the sex of the child in the OP's post.

ChristinaXYZ · 08/05/2021 14:45

There is a thread on Ovarit with links to different news reports and different views on the sex of the poor child. As others have said regardless I hope the kid gets some help. It is still important the crimes are reported correctly.

ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/30318/idaho-school-shooting-by-a-girl-rumours-that-the-shooter-is-trans

MissBarbary · 08/05/2021 14:57

@NutellaEllaElla

Scratch that, I just googled and it's more like 53% white males. 17% African American and 8% Latino.
Given the actual ethnic make up of the USA that fact might not prove what you intended.
UsedUpUsername · 08/05/2021 15:12

@NutellaEllaElla

I dunno, it feels like a white male violence issue to me. It's over 90% white male perpetrators isn't it?
Sadly, it’s like plane crashes vs car accidents. Gun violence at predominantly black school districts is so common people don’t even register it and it largely goes unremarked and unreported. When a mass shooting happens at a primarily white, suburban school, it’s all over the (international) news giving people false sense of the problem. The patterns are different though, the suburban shootings tend to have a quite sensationalist element to them, kids indiscriminately killing their classmates versus a more targeted beef between students.

As for this one, the confused reporting is bothering me. Probably have to wait to find out the real details here.

NutellaEllaElla · 08/05/2021 16:15

Yeah I went looking for more accurate stats and then corrected myself. Still overwhelmingly male violence. Given we're in the feminism section you might guess that this was my main point.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 08/05/2021 18:22

ABC news have said that a ‘male student has been taken into custody’ after a headline of ‘girl shoots at 3...’. So confusing as anything?

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UsedUpUsername · 08/05/2021 18:40

Unverified posts are saying this was a TIF:

www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/n6bcsr/3_injured_suspect_in_custody_after_shooting_at/gx8sfnq

CorianderBee · 08/05/2021 20:05

Probably parental abuse or history of abuse

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