Police and crime commissioners...what do they know about Sex?

[MerchedCymru]

A late entry to the discussion on elections in Wales tomorrow, but here's an over view from Merched Cymru re the candidates for Police and Crime Commissioner, regarding their views on crimes committed by natal males who identify as women.

merchedcymru.wales/2021/05/04/questions-to-a-police-and-crime-commissioner-candidate/

Its clear that some of our would-be commissioners are either blissfully unaware of the harm that will be caused by ignoring the importance of sex, or deliberately swerving what they know to be a minefield. Either way, its clear that we need to start holding commissioners to account in the way crimes are investigated and reported. Increasingly perpetrators are charged and reported according to the sex they identify with rather than their biological sex. This is in our opinion is the 'entry point' at which natal males who identify as women are able to access womens prison's. Added to this we have the trauma of female victims who are forced by courts to use the offenders chosen pronouns, and the reporting of crimes by the press which affects the public perception of female offending. All in all, it's a shocking picture, and we feel its really not good enough that many of our crime commissioners hide behind a mask of ignorance. This needs to be addressed, and yet again it seems like the only way to expose this practise is for women to raise awareness of what is going on and hold the justice system to account.

Here's the latest gem reported in the Western telegraph to illustrate our point
www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/19264825.woman-exposed-glebe-house-car-park-haverfordwest/
Its very rare for women to be charged with exposure, less than 1% were charged with exposure and voyeurism in England and Wales so attention grabbing headlines like this are misleading to say the least.

Our blog by MC was based on the excellent work by Gender Critical
gcritical.org/2021/05/03/on-the-police-crime-and-commissioner-candidate-trail/

Fuck all apparently.

I think that in general with this sort of thing-

Some have no idea about it really at all
Some know it is contentious and have a script to follow

The first person is in the second camp, the second in the first (maybe I should have put my points the other way around!).

It's all very odd. The fact that crimes are being recorded on self id and have been for ages and no one is able to say when or why it changed is a big deal.

It has led to at least one occasion where a police thing saying keep an eye out for this person had people looking for a woman who may be dressed as a man, when in fact it was a self id trans woman who might be dressed as a man and yes they did indeed just look like a man dressed as a man. But the police decided to tell the public to look for a woman.

Male people in women's prisons for god's sake how is that a thing that got done without debate etc and is not a matter for alarm? And open discussion?

It's all mind blowing tbh.

I'm in Wales. I notice that three of the four Welsh PCC regions contacted by Gender Critical didn't bother to reply. The one region that did were so useless that GC couldn't find a single candidate to recommend.

I am getting so angry. No-one seems to give a flying monkeys about women.

I'm in S.East and I've had one reply, from the only female candidate. She knows. She knows it all. Off to vote for her now.

@OhHolyJesus

I'm in S.East and I've had one reply, from the only female candidate. She knows. She knows it all. Off to vote for her now.

Oh you lucky thing. The Labour candidate tied himself up in knots to distance himself. Either totally unaware or playing for time. Pathetic!

I have spoken to Ms Thomson on this issue and she was incredibly rude, her response was hopeless. She parrots the TWAW mantra with no thought at all for the threats to the safety of women and girls. I think she is a terrible candidate for this post and will do a lot of damage. She came across as really dim.

I feel really worried at the thought that she might get in.

Ooh I'm off to vote for ours in SE and she has put women's issues and violence against women as her top priority so I'm to vote for her now!!

I would check how she defines “women” in that context.

@SirVixofVixHall

I would check how she defines “women” in that context.

Oh that is so bloody annoying.

(Narrows eyes) sooooooo....what do you mean by 'woman' exactly?

Why do we even have to ask that question? Can you imagine if we asked the question of any other characteristic .....so what do you mean by disabled? Its beyond parody

Can't find what our current one thinks a woman is, but apparently he's going to make our streets safer by improving street lighting. Now, that would be a good move, but perhaps we need a bit more than leaving the lights on an hour or so longer.

Other choices are a very woke labour candidate, the Lib Dem's or the racists.

It's a spoiled ballot from me.

@PurpleWh1teGreen

Can't find what our current one thinks a woman is, but apparently he's going to make our streets safer by improving street lighting. Now, that would be a good move, but perhaps we need a bit more than leaving the lights on an hour or so longer.

Other choices are a very woke labour candidate, the Lib Dem's or the racists.

It's a spoiled ballot from me.

And THESE are our choices ?

Yup. It's so depressing.

District council is equally thorny. I'm going to take a sharpie.

I feel like setting fire to my ballot paper and then jumping up and down on it, frankly.

I don’t know who I am going to vote for as I should have checked this out earlier - but a friend told me that in Surrey - the Tory female candidate fully gets it.

If I was there - that’s who I would vote for. Anyone from Surrey??

The Surrey PCC is Lisa Townsend and yes, she fully gets it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9915637/New-Surrey-Police-Commissioner-attacks-Stonewall-promoting-dangerous-transgender-ideology.html?ito=ampwhatsappp_share-bottom

So glad she won by a country mile!