University staff given list of banned 'microinsults' they cannot say to trans people

[ChristinaXYZ]

From the Telegraph. the last para make you want to weep -

A Newcastle University spokesman said: "We want our campus to be a welcoming and safe place for everyone who studies, works or visits here, regardless of gender, race, class, age or disability."

But it would seem they are not bothered about making people feel welcome regardless of sex, as they don't even mention it.

@Marcipex

My sister wanted to be a boy. Aren’t I allowed to make that remark any more?

Is it a real situation? Does it reflect reality? Then, contrary to all logic... no.

They do know that rooms are usually separated by sex don’t they?

This is interesting from the list of microaggressions above:

"Excess focus on anatomical sex markers, most usually reproductive organs"

How does that fit with all the "people with a cervix" and "vagina havers" stuff?

@Marcipex

My sister wanted to be a boy. Aren’t I allowed to make that remark any more?

I wanted desperately to be a boy for quite a few years, you and me both would be barred from Edinburgh uni for stating that fact, our lived experience does not trump others lived experience, apparently. What a time to be alive eh?

Absolutely anything could be considered a microaggression in the right circumstances.
On a tangentially related note, a friend and I were discussing Eddie izzard recently, funnily all those years of knowing Eddie was a male made my friend constantly forget that Eddie is now a "girl" my friend said the wrong pronouns an awful lot. That conversation could presumably not happen in Edinburgh uni now.

If a student is found to be "guilty" of a "micro aggression", what can the university do about it?
Excellent point.

Having looked at the micro aggression resources (not just this one) has no one bothered that their complete lack of accessibility makes them an aggression against people who use screen readers?

In Exeter transpeople are encouraged to say who they are happy to change in front of - but what of the choice of the other students:

Generally speaking, I think males are more comfortable revealing themselves to females than to other males. Females are just less threatening.

I think some men try to pretend that a desire for single-sex spaces is symmetrical. It definitely isn't.

If there's discomfort from a male about a mixed-sex situation, it's generally more about putting the woman in that position. Some men, of course, do not worry about that.

(In my opinion. Reminder - I'm male.)

@CBUK22

Is any of this actually coming from trans groups?

Or is it, like most of this Wokery being driven by middle class leftists?

Personally I'd just want to be left in peace and treated like anyone else whatever my gender identity. All this nonsense just gets peoples backs up.

Resource co-produced by Rayya Ghul, IAD, University of Edinburgh in consultation with trans and non-binary students.

it says so at the bottom of each page

I was thinking that it sounds like living in that TV program.

you and me both would be barred from Edinburgh uni for stating that fact

That's just utter nonsense.

@CatherinaJTV

you and me both would be barred from Edinburgh uni for stating that fact

That's just utter nonsense.

Can you expand on why?

If a student is found to be "guilty" of a "micro aggression", what can the university do about it?

This is a fair point. Very little I would imagine. And if they did, then I am wondering how that would look in a court of law. (I suspect the outcomes could be different depending on where in the UK, of course.)

@CBUK22

Is any of this actually coming from trans groups?

Or is it, like most of this Wokery being driven by middle class leftists?

Personally I'd just want to be left in peace and treated like anyone else whatever my gender identity. All this nonsense just gets peoples backs up.

This is definitely coming from the trans groups - just take a look at all the guidelines for schools demanding that girls are removed from their changing rooms if they object to undressing in front of a boy who says be's now a girl.

But it is being excitedly policed by middle class lefties focussing on their "luxury beliefs". Self indulgent demands that have no care for the genuinely disadvantaged in society and are driven by some remarkably privileged individuals claiming to now be the most oppressed.

Resource co-produced by Rayya Ghul

Why do I recognise that name?

I think we can look to the hounding of Raquel Rosario Sanchez at Bristol to see what might happen to a student accused of one of the aggressions

@MissBarbary

Edinburgh University has drawn up phrases that staff cannot use, including saying "all women hate their periods" and "all people think about being the opposite gender sometimes"

In my own case both of those statements are untrue so I would not be particularly pleased at hearing them being put forward as a universal truth.

But in real life who comes out with these sorts of statements anyway? I’ve never heard anyone have these kinds of discussions . . .

@blackwhiteandstripey

If a student is found to be "guilty" of a "micro aggression", what can the university do about it?

Fuck all I should imagine.

Or are we following the American model now of rounding them up and hauling them in front of kangaroo courts?

It's not aimed at students, it's aimed at the staff. The description below the title is "A Resource for Academics".

I wanted to be a boy when I was 10 and had no interest whatsoever in girls toys or girly clothes. My best friends were boys and I asked for Mecano for Christmas. When I got given a doll, I was bemused as I’d no interest in it.

Thank god this was the 80s, not now. My poor niece was not so lucky and is on hormones and awaiting a mastectomy. That is criminal.

I'm an academic and been told similar by my employer and we have been asked to review all students in our classes to make sure we use the correct pronouns with them. To be honest I don't have time to do all that, I teach about 150 students most weeks in different groups and I barely even know names. What really annoys me is that female academics are consistently referred to as Miss rather than professor or doctor so I'm very tempted to put my preferred pronoun as 'Prof'.

Why do I recognise that name? [Rayya Ghul]

Yeah, me too. I think she's hyper-Woke. I think I must have seen some conflict with James Lindsay.

Here she is in the comment section of an article on New Discourses.

Oh, and she quit the SNP cos they were transphobic.

My DD teen gets around this by using the pronoun "fox/foxy" if asked, she has no interest in having to appease others. It will likely change when she's working for an institution and she will appease as I do IRL.

I do not want to be spoken to by my line manager about my thoughts and I worry more on here about being outed as someone who thinks sex is real than outed for anything else.