Survey on Detransitioners by Post Trans

[rogdmum]

This is very interesting:

www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00918369.2021.1919479

Particularly:

“ The most common reported reason for detransitioning was realized that my gender dysphoria was related to other issues (70%). The second one was health concerns (62%), followed by transition did not help my dysphoria (50%), found alternatives to deal with my dysphoria (45%), unhappy with the social changes (44%), and change in political views (43%). At the very bottom of the list are: lack of support from social surroundings (13%), financial concerns (12%) and discrimination (10%)”

Plus:

“ Another reported issue was the difficulty of finding a therapist willing and able to look at the factors behind gender dysphoria and to offer alternatives to transitioning. Some respondents highlighted the fact that they were cautious regarding the possible ideological bias or lack of knowledge of therapists.”

Actually I could go on and on. The whole thing is very informative

Thanks rogdmum. That is a really interesting survey. I hope that it will lead to some greater research being done too.

Very interesting, and sadly probably not that much of a surprise to people who have been listening to what detransitioners are saying on social media.

Sadly the gender extremists wont listen to this and will still pretend that most people who detransition do so due to discrimination.

Oh, this is priceless. GC detransitioner does survey of people on their own GC website.

This is the Litman fiasco all over again. I look forward to the correction.

Meanwhile, here's a survey of 27,715 trans people (rather than 217).

transequality.org/sites/default/files/docs/usts/USTS-Full-Report-Dec17.pdf

"Respondents who de-transitioned cited a number of reasons for doing so, including facing too much harassment or discrimination after they began transitioning (31%), having trouble getting a job (29%), or pressure from a parent (36%), spouse (18%), or other family members (26%)."

That's really interesting thank you.

Decries survey as it is on biased site, continues to post further survey also from a biased site.

Can't have it both ways.

Any research in the US is heavily influenced by the society there. It's a very different environment, and one that is also overtly homophobic.

Let's face it there is an underlying reason for any dysphoria. If that isn't addressed they won't see any improvement in wellbeing

The thing is that the responders in the first research were from backgrounds where they were supported and yet transition still didn't help them.

If you're very unsupported it's easier to blame that factor than recognise other factors such as the range of other issues going on.

It is brilliant that Elie managed to get this study published in an academic journal. There is so little out there on detransition and almost nothing on detransitioners own perspectives. I hope she keeps on with her research as more people are starting to listen.

To add, a researcher at Bath university wanted to look at detransitioners a few years ago and wasn't allowed.

From the 2015 study posted.

III. Transition-Related
Health Care
Respondents received questions about whether they
had ever had, or wanted to have, a range of potential
health care services related to gender transition.
a. Counseling
More than three-quarters (77%) of respondents
said they wanted counseling or therapy for their
gender identity or gender transition at some
point in their life, but only 58% of respondents
have ever received counseling or therapy. While transgender men and women (81%) were only
slightly more likely to have ever wanted gender related counseling than non-binary respondents
(70%), transgender men and women were
more than twice as likely to have actually had
counseling (73%) as compared to non-binary
respondents (31%). Access to counseling varied
greatly by income, with those who reported
having no individual income (39%) and those
who earned an income of $1 to $9,999 (48%)
being much less likely to have received
counseling than those who earned $50,000 or
more (76%) (Figure 7.8).

It's so much cheaper for affirmation only nil liability insurance cover in the US so this is not surprising.

The US research is Dec 2016. So data gathered during that year and possibly 2015 or 2014.

The detransitioners involved in the research by Ele were late 2019. Many of them probably started to transition around 2014.

The first U.K. Trans Pride March was in Brighton 2013. Stonewall added T in 2015. Below is the graph of referrals to the Tavistock in the U.K. (I know data was collected world wide.)

The US research was taken from a time and context when it was much less acceptable to be trans.

The two are not comparable and the latter research by Elie is more pertinent to the current climate and ROGD.

Excellent to see that 2015 study posted yet again.

Please give us the question numbers from the back (from page 250) that relate specifically to detransitioners.

And the definition of transition used in the survey.

You plop down the numbers as if we should be impressed, but how many respondents of that 27k were detransitioners again?

Oh and shizuku you do realize there was an incentive of a prize draw for respondents. In my training in market research, that does cause some issues with bias and data collection. Ie. It should be used as a indicative survey just like Ellie’s.

So, nothing from this survey is really relevant to today’s detransitioners. We have addressed before. You keep posting it and we keep pointing out it is problematic due to its origin (the USA is actually a very poor comparator to the situation in the UK). And it’s age, it doesn’t reflect the changes that became apparent over the past five years.

Again, your discrimination against the younger female transitioners is pretty clear in the links you post which tend to support male transitioners.

In the US survey 6 out of 10 "no income" people received no counselling.

This makes my heart hurt.

#CouldHaveBeenMe