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Man kills woman...Women told to "stay away"

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Heidi1982 · 30/04/2021 10:31

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/warning-for-vigilance-after-killing-of-pcso-julia-james-93r7l5ftz

The first line in this article about the murder of a woman by a man is telling women to restrict their movements. I'm fed up of women having to take responsibility for male violence.

RIP Julia James.

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HopeClearwater · 01/05/2021 13:27

Julia James, a pcso, is murdered and there just doesn't seem anywhere near the same level of outrage and msm interest. Why??

Because this is going to turn out that it wasn’t a random bloke.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/05/2021 13:42

Because this is going to turn out that it wasn’t a random bloke.

Do you have any reason for thinking that? I'd wondered if her work (against domestic violence in particular) might have made her a target.

notagainmummy · 01/05/2021 13:54

The police spokesman said they don't want to prevent people walking their dogs and going about their normal business, but just to be vigilant.

NeedToKnow101 · 01/05/2021 15:06

@HopeClearwater

Julia James, a pcso, is murdered and there just doesn't seem anywhere near the same level of outrage and msm interest. Why??

Because this is going to turn out that it wasn’t a random bloke.

I agree.

MusicMenu · 01/05/2021 15:11

Yes, on a much lower level, we apparently have a flasher in our local woodland. I'm not entirely sure how true it is, but there have been a lot of FB reports of a man acting strangely. I'm sceptical because it sometimes feels like even other women want to see women's freedoms removed. I'm fed up of being made to feel irresponsible because I still like to run there on my own.

ListeningQuietly · 01/05/2021 15:15

Sarah Everard, abducted from a busy London street and her remains dumped many miles away, the presumed killer a police officer with no connection to her.

This case is likely to be somewhat different

but yes
Curfews for men would be a start

MusicMenu · 01/05/2021 15:19

The Sarah Everard case was unbelievably tragic, but even in that reporting there was misogyny. She was attractive young and blonde. What happened about the two black sisters killed after the park birthday party? We've heard far less about them.

Moondust001 · 01/05/2021 15:31

It hasn't generated anywhere near the shock and outrage of Sarah Everard though. Is it because Julia was older, she was a pcso or because activists have moved on and are now busy out of lockdown?

There's been a lot of news coverage. If you are asking about why other women don't seem as outraged or angry, perhaps the question needs to be addressed to other women. To be honest, I think there's an easier explanation - opportunism. The very same time that there was so much coverage about the search for Sarah and the discovery of her body, another young woman and her two young daughters disappeared from the Bristol area. The police were desperately searching for them. It was in the news. They were reported missing two days before Sarah disappeared (although they hadn't been seen for two weeks before). eight days after Sarah's body was found the woman and one of her daughters (aged 2) was found dead, and the other daughter alive. There was a vigil. Where was everyone? Or did a poor single mum from an ethnic minority really not rank that high compared to a pretty blonde professional middle class woman?

It is tragic what happened to Sarah, and what happened to Bennylyn Burke. Perhaps what is even more tragic is that only one of them was deemed good enough to be the public face of outrage.

Tinkpod · 01/05/2021 15:34

I learned Krav Maga and am capable of seriously injuring or killing a man, I carry very sharp items to use to defend myself with and I'm always hyper vigilant. When I was younger I lived in london and had a few close calls, one was particularly nasty. It's a horrible subject to have to discuss but mindset is half of your survival, be prepared to bite the cheek off your assailant with all your strength, gouge his eyes out, do whatever it takes, you can't be worried about causing pain or injury in that situation. Society tells us to not be violent or aggressive, but that's exactly what you have to be. These men rely on us being passive or scared when they approach us, be loud, vulgar, aggressive and violent, it's amazing how strong you can be when adrenaline kicks in

Charley50 · 01/05/2021 16:06

The vigil was really a general protest against men continuing to get away with abusing and killing women in large numbers, and it not being seen as a societal problem. Sarah Everard's murder and the Twitter campaign which invited women to share their own stories was the catalyst for such a large vigil. But really it was about the rise in murders including domestic murders, and the way that men get away with it, e.g. rape convictions at an all time low. Yes, she was blond and pretty, but she's dead unfortunately. Most murdered white women don't get a nationally publicised vigil.

Violent men and the epidemic of killing and violence against women is the issue here. I saw reports about Bennylyn Burke. Absolutely tragic. Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman's murder was absolutely tragic. And all other numerous women that have been killed by men. Every death by murder is tragic. Not all of them get the headlines because it is so commonplace.

Thecatonthemat · 01/05/2021 16:09

We need to get out on the streets every single time. A March, a vigil or any show of the strength of our feelings about these killings. We are angry .

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