The reach of speaking up. The ripple effect.

[Leafstamp]

Today I spoke up about something pertaining to the protection of women's sex based rights. I estimate the reach of this to be educating approx. 10 people almost immediately and very directly; in due course, to affect the training of around 80 staff in a way that will positively affect sex based rights; and after that have a lesser, but still measurable impact on up to 1500 further individuals within an organisation.

This is before any of those people then take the knowledge into other areas of their lives.

It feels good.

It would be great if anyone else wants to add their version of the reach of their feminist actions.

And, it's not just a numbers game. If just one woman is helped (saved?) by our words and actions, then that's amazing.

@Mulletsaremisunderstood Posy Parker? She's amazing! Glad to hear I'm not alone in experiencing this. They actually told me that sex is not binary and that anyone can be what they want to be. They'd not heard of transgender cheats in sports or of women getting raped in prisons by other "women." Thanks for the support.

I’ve been posting GC content on my social media for years & every so often, there’s a like or an appreciative comment from someone who’s hearing about it for the first time.

On the speaking up, I haven't been as brave as some of you, but I have emailed some of my local TDs (haven't gotten any decent responses yet). And contributing to crowdfunders when I can.

I am talking to people in real life about it, which seems very effective.
Most people haven't a clue about what's going on and are shocked. It's refreshing to have reasonable conversations about this, if you only looked on twitter you'd think the world had gone mad.

I also emailed our prison service to ask how many people with gender recognition certificates were in the female prison. They responded with some nonsense about having to house someone according to their legal gender, and directed me to the general population numbers, which is no help.

[quote Zimniy]@Mulletsaremisunderstood Posy Parker? She's amazing! Glad to hear I'm not alone in experiencing this. They actually told me that sex is not binary and that anyone can be what they want to be. They'd not heard of transgender cheats in sports or of women getting raped in prisons by other "women." Thanks for the support.[/quote]
Yeah, love Posy!! She's the angry woman I wish I had the guts to be

Good point OP! I am a school governor so make sure I check every policy for sex/gender etc, I also do the same with policies at work, I also talk to anyone who will listen to me (if they disagree no one has dared to say so yet ).

I've been making appointments to speak to senior managers individually in my company. Two (male) managers were all about 'be kind', 'can't tar everyone with same brush '. Two female managers shared my concerns but only off the record .

I have two more meetings to go, one with the head of our equality forum and the other with head of diversity & inclusion - both women - but I'm approaching those meetings with a bit more caution as I haven't met them before.

I just don't feel these things can be left unsaid anymore.

I’ve been talking quietly to our head of HR & also making use of our anonymous feedback system. They were pretty shocked by what I told them about Stonewall.

I’ve emailed my head of diversity about sex based vs gender based spaces/sports/groups etc. She assured me that sex does not mean gender identity and sex based rights are not affected but attached two articles ( that I could read to educate myself) and they completely contradicted that! There’s been some concern about girls in school locally so I will try to use that traction to have another swing.

I took our LGBTI diversity survey to bits (do you believe there are more than two genders (male/female?) etc)

Our local mp was canvassing on the street and she seemed very ‘be kind’ but I asked her the staniland question and she did look visibly taken aback so I don’t think anyone had ever put it in those terms.

Please remember that Labour is a members-led party: if you feel strongly about this join and campaign from within! Hold office if you can. Be the change you wish to see!

I'm delighted to see the ripple effect of the Census/ONS ruling - SRA alters survey to include sex

Well done op

I rarely email but I, and others, wrote to Tampax US after a thread on here with offensive to women language and it’s now changed.

I wfh S/E so yet to face work place or this in schools

Thanks @Leafstamp for a great and very encouraging thread. I think every conversation helps. Stunned that so many politicians seem unaware of their party's actual policies! I have had some enthusiastic' conversations but can come over as over-invested and go immediately to volume 11, which can come over as too confrontational instead of conversational and persuasive. Need to perfect my banter and get an elevator pitch that clearly articulates the main points without immediately going to most gruesome and egregious specific examples. I have sent emails to companies. At (woke) work I did challenge a "gender instead of sex" in a client's company goal on equality, outlining how that could actually reduce female power in organisations. Was scared but glad I did it.
I'll get my banner and banter ready for a new day
Most of my friends are mum when I post on our group chat ANYTHING relating to sex/gender. Suspect many are indoctrinated by their woke jobs (several are academics).

Also @CatChant love your post and your DH grinning like a shark as he preps your prey.

Suspect many are indoctrinated by their woke jobs (several are academics).
Or they have ‘trans’ children, or their friends or family do. Even if you don’t believe your teenage niece is suddenly your nephew, you wouldn’t announce that on social media. To name an entirely hypothetical example, of course.

NoraEphronsNeck - Two female managers shared my concerns but only off the record .

This is the reality of how far this ideology has gone. People are so afraid of being labelled a bigot that they are terrified to say that they are even concerned.

@AmandaHoldensLips

I find the hairdressers an excellent place to kick off a conversation. So many women have absolutely no idea about the attempted destruction of our hard-won sex-based rights. Once they get the gist of what's going on it's amazing to watch the rage unfold.

I have a male hairdresser and he'd been talking about cancel culture to me during a previous visit. I broached the subject of transactivism etc during my next appointment, and he said he agreed with my stance on single-sex spaces etc. I mentioned the LGB Alliance and he admitted quietly, that he'd joined since our last conversation

A friend’s partner runs the local youth football team, and she’s been discussing things with him. Coincidentally or not, their first transgirl player is staying on the boys’ team with the other boys told firmly to use the new name and not be dicks about ‘feminine’ clothing choices. That seems genuinely progressive to me.

Remember, sex in law is male and female, it is binary no matter how much people might want it to be otherwise. Go vipers

My pals are all GC bar one who is all on board with her new feminism, except she has had to acknowledge that her arguments don't hold weight and that the only way to make real sense of it is to see woke in it's political context which is to break down all structures and then rebuilt but when I added that her beautiful home might be part of that destruction, she admitted that armchair socialism was more her thing 😂 At least we haven't cancelled each other and I can make her laugh about it - think it is only a matter of time

I correct 'gender' to 'sex' wherever I see or hear it mentioned.

Here's Posie Parker on meeting the woke feminists

m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVHLh218FJo

@FingernailNibbler

Also *@CatChant* love your post and your DH grinning like a shark as he preps your prey.

Why thank you @FingernailNibbler, very kind of you to say so. I have to confess DH enjoyed himself thoroughly, and although he was supposed to be working, he seemed to have caught quite a lot of the, ahem, lecture.

Lord Winston came up in conversation today. Someone mentioned they hadn't heard much about him recently. Which was the perfect cue to leap in and talk about his wonderful, moving speech in the House of Lords defending the use of the word "mother" over "pregnant person" in the maternity allowances bill. Sage nods of approval all round for Lord Winston and a lot of lip-curling and snorts of derision at "pregnant person".

They actually told me that sex is not binary and that anyone can be what they want to be

well I want to be a 20 year old millionaire.

I see they are biology-phobes and science deniers too.

I made a stand against turning the men's toilet mixed sex in my building.

I am female but explained why it was important and all about dignity and privacy. Plus, safeguarding (we are a school, the new signs said everyone, not just staff).

Got huge kudos for it which means I now have allies if they try to take away the girls' provision.

They have actually been very good. It was just thoughtless.

I've been encouraging male relatives who are keen on sport to complete the England Rugby and Cycling trans policy survey (least they can do). Also encouraging them to find 3 more mates to do the same (and on and on).

England Rugby (closes 5th May)
www.englandrugby.com/about-rfu/rfu-policies/transgender-policy

[[www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4206745-Rugby-RFU-seeking-feedback-on-its-transgender-policy]]

British Cycling Consultation (ends 30/4)
www.britishcycling.org.uk/about/article/20210325-about-bc-news-British-Cycling-launches-consultation-on-Transgender-participation-policy-0

[[www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4202090-British-Cycling-Consultation-on-Transgender-Policy]]

Apologies for link failures:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4206745-Rugby-RFU-seeking-feedback-on-its-transgender-policy

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4202090-British-Cycling-Consultation-on-Transgender-Policy

Excellent work!

find 3 more mates to do the same

^^This is the key isn't it. I think it was Sex Matters (sex-matters.org/) that wanted to increase their following and likened it to their 'R'.

We want the feminist R to increase exponentially!