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British Psychological Society is being examined by Charity Commission re complaints over the right for psychologists to prescribe drugs including hormone blockers to transgender patients

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ChristinaXYZ · 26/04/2021 14:46

From the Telegraph

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/25/exclusive-british-psychological-society-faces-charity-commission/

The British Psychological Society (BPS) is being examined by the Charity Commission as it faces complaints including allegations that it is potentially putting patients at risk by arguing for the right for psychologists to prescribe drugs including hormone blockers to transgender patients.

The learned society faces allegations of poor governance, lack of openness and transparency and silencing academic dissent, and The Telegraph understands the president-elect is among those to have complained to the regulator.

There have been at least 10 complaints to the commission, which has confirmed that it is "examining concerns about the governance and management of the BPS as part of an ongoing regulatory compliance case".

It comes amid claims that a recommendation to the NHS that psychologists should be given prescribing rights was a "biased" process "skewed" toward making it easier to prescribe hormone blockers.

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Psychologists do not currently have the power to prescribe drugs, but discussions are ongoing at the NHS on whether to recommend that ministers should be advised to change the rules.

Alongside concerns over the prescribing of hormone blockers, fears have been raised by some BPS members that such a change would lead to an increase in the prescription of drugs such as antidepressants and the over-medication of patients.

Peter Kinderman, a former president of the BPS and professor of clinical psychology at the University of Liverpool, said the society needed to "get its act together" as the advice that it gives on such issues is of "dramatic importance".

Peter Kinderman warned that the society needed to 'get its act together'
Peter Kinderman warned that the society needed to 'get its act together'
It comes as a number of trustees resigned including David Murphy, the vice-president, who publicly cited concerns "about governance oversight, escalating expenditure and lack of openness and transparency".

The BPS said in a statement that the board "has to make difficult decisions" and if a trustee cannot accept the decision then "the correct course of action is to step down".

The society is also embroiled in a police investigation for fraud by abuse of position after a female employee allegedly spent huge sums on a credit card. She has been arrested and bailed by Leicestershire police.

Members, including two former chairs of the society's Division of Clinical Psychology, have set up a campaign group to call for a change in the way it is managed.

One dossier of complaints to the Charity Commission, being considered by a caseworker at the regulator, details seven allegations against the society including routine failure of the complaints process and censorship of academic freedoms and dissent.

The regulator has been told the BPS "flatly ignored" a letter from 100 members expressing concern about the issue of prescribing rights, recommended in a report published by the society in October. The letter, seen by The Telegraph, warned that the professionals had "grave concerns about the proposal to extend prescribing rights to some psychologists, and about the process through which the BPS view is being decided".

Prof Kinderman sat on the panel deciding on the issue and said members had attempted to make their recommendations in favour before the consultation had even concluded.

The professor, who is opposed to extending prescribing rights to psychologists partly because of concerns about society's over-reliance on medication, said the "agenda seemed to be driven by hormone blockers" and the "whole debate was effectively biased and heavily skewed".

"Children are receiving both counselling and, in some cases, medical intervention in order to change gender on the basis of our public, scientific and medical understanding of the nature of gender. What the UK's, and therefore what one of the world's, most reputable scientific bodies says about these issues really matters," he added.

He argued that the society had an impact on way in which psychologists practice and are perceived in the real world, adding: "The negative side of all of this is if the BPS doesn't get its act together then we'll leave this important business to other people who will tell nonsense to the public."

A BPS spokesman said that despite "strong views" among members, the working group on prescribing rights had gone through an "expert and democratic process" and the research and two-year consultation showed that it "could be useful in certain settings".

The spokesman added that the society "does not currently have a fixed position on this issue", which would be decided by Parliament in any event.

The November 2020 prescribing rights report came after a report in July 2019 on gender, sexuality and relationship diversity, with a crossover of some professionals on both panels.

The guidelines were publicly criticised by a group of 23 psychologists who warned the advice that a "'gender-affirmative' stance should be the default position" meant they were required to apply a "pre-determined 'diagnosis' or explanation" without exploring the nature or cause of the distress.

The BPS says the guidelines are aimed at adults only, but concern has been raised that at no point in the document does it state this or define the age range of "young people" that are repeatedly referred to.

Despite the complaints, the spokesman said the guidelines are "not, in our view, at all contentious. They require our members not to discriminate against individuals and to treat them with respect".

The members' campaign group last month called on Ian Karet, the new chairman of the Charity Commission, to formally intervene in the society because "the situation is critical" and they are "desperate to see a restoration of health and reputation for the BPS".

A letter written by Pat Harvey, the former chairman of the Division of Clinical Psychology at the BPS, on behalf of the group warned that there has been "the collapse of legitimate administration, policy and practice at the BPS, a learned and professional Royal Chartered body with important responsibilities to the public and its members".

The BPS spokesman recognised that "debates on professional issues are often vigorous and the past 18 months have been turbulent" as the organisation is going through a process of reorganisation.

But he argued that the complaints had come from a "very small group" of 60,000 members who "are unwilling to accept the outcome of our consultations and policy positions and have continued to be highly vocal in their opposition, as is their right".

The spokesman added: "The BPS is not perfect, and there is always room for improvement in any organisation. It is clear to us that stronger governance processes will be required in the future, and this work is well under way. We have kept the Charity Commission fully informed of developments throughout and continue to engage with them."

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Datun · 26/04/2021 15:06

The regulator has been told the BPS "flatly ignored" a letter from 100 members expressing concern about the issue of prescribing rights,

The guidelines were publicly criticised by a group of 23 psychologists who warned the advice that a "'gender-affirmative' stance should be the default position" meant they were required to apply a "pre-determined 'diagnosis' or explanation" without exploring the nature or cause of the distress.

...the collapse of legitimate administration, policy and practice at the BPS, a learned and professional Royal Chartered body with important responsibilities to the public and its members".

"The negative side of all of this is if the BPS doesn't get its act together then we'll leave this important business to other people who will tell nonsense to the public."

"whole debate was effectively biased and heavily skewed".

Wow, the sunlight shining on that is positively blinding.

highame · 26/04/2021 15:13

Can anyone remember something last year (not sure it was the BPS but looking at this, it might well be) where they were following guidelines by a TRA which were then deleted and they had to backtrack. Maybe this is part of the same thing. Very interesting, very illuminating

Datun · 26/04/2021 15:14

From their website

The Board of Trustees. This is the society's primary governing body, with responsibility for the management and control of the society's affairs and transactions, which ensures that we conform to the terms of our charter and that we observe our legal obligations as a charitable body.

From the article

The BPS said in a statement that the board "has to make difficult decisions" and if a trustee cannot accept the decision then "the correct course of action is to step down".

Got it. We have these people to make sure we're doing what we're supposed to. And if we don't, we get new people.

Tibtom · 26/04/2021 15:16

There is no way powerful drugs which have affects on bodywide systems should ever be prescribed by someone without medical training. Even if they knew what contraindications there were, what tests may need to be carried out first and were able to request these tests, they wouldn't be able to interpret the results.

Would be interesting to see the increase in their indemity insurance premiums! (Do psychologist even need this?)

Tibtom · 26/04/2021 15:17

Remembering that puberty blockers are being prescribed off-licence.

Helleofabore · 26/04/2021 15:20

Thanks for posting this Christina. Turbulent times seems very appropriate.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 26/04/2021 15:23

What? The same society that is considering its position on those members who aided the government with covid strategies?

It doesn't seem to have an even handed, unbiased take on things, does it?

ArabellaScott · 26/04/2021 15:26

Holy fuck.

BadGherkin · 26/04/2021 15:31

Psychologists do not have the capacity to prescribe drugs/medications for a very good reason - they are not qualified to do so.

They do not receive the training in pharmacology, medicine and biochemistry that is a minimum level of education that would allow safe prescribing.

Psychiatrists are medical doctors, and are thus qualified to prescribe.

The thought that Psychologists could be arguing for the right to hand out any drugs is horrifying.

OhHolyJesus · 26/04/2021 15:36

I see your Holy Fuck Arabella and raise you a Holy Shit.

Helleofabore · 26/04/2021 15:42

Yes BadGherkin. I know a few psychologists and they are no where near qualified to be prescribing any chemicals. And I know one would not ever want to, and the other probably would as they would believe wholeheartedly that they were helping and are very naive about the world.

Floopsy · 26/04/2021 16:24

Interesting as well that, after all these years of treating people with serious mental illnesses, it's the trans community's desires that have prompted this change.

RedDogsBeg · 26/04/2021 16:34

Very interesting, more sunlight being shone on the wholesale capture taking place.

persistentwoman · 26/04/2021 16:55

Overreach is an ever present theme that runs through all this. There's so much evidence of repeated trampling over well established safeguards - medical safety and ethics, medical experimentation on children, child safeguarding, safety of women... on and on it goes with institution after institution crumbling in the face of threats and intimidation.

And then we get exposures like this. Angry

SunsetBeetch · 26/04/2021 17:20

@OhHolyJesus

I see your Holy Fuck Arabella and raise you a Holy Shit.
Holy fucking shit.
ChristinaXYZ · 26/04/2021 17:29

They overreach, we've got to shine sunlight. They overreach and we've got to shine sunlight. And on, and on...

The more we can do shining the tiniest beam the better. Write to people and organisations when you see stuff you don't like. If you can't use your own name then get a different email address (Proton offer an easy to use and set up encrypted email for free). But keep shining those beams to let the discussions start.

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Defaultname · 26/04/2021 17:34

Q: How many psychologists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Just one, but the light bulb has to WANT to change.

Q: What do you have to do to get puberty-blockers off a psychologist?
A: Not much. Just say you really WANT to change.

Datun · 26/04/2021 17:58

If psychologists aren't qualified to prescribe, then I don't see how it could even be possible, however much they write notes to each other wanting it to happen.

This was all in the Action for Trans Health manifesto.

That trans people could prescribe to each other. Which batty though it sounds, has the same element that you should be able to prescribe, without being qualified to.

Action for Trans Health also wanted all trans prisoners released immediately. Again, sounds a bit unhinged, but the bit that is really nuts is that they were invited to contribute to Maria Millers government equality report.

NecessaryScene1 · 26/04/2021 18:03

Action for Trans Health also wanted all trans prisoners released immediately.

And of course self-id as trans.

Seems like a flawless policy proposal. Wink

Datun · 26/04/2021 18:06

@NecessaryScene1

Action for Trans Health also wanted all trans prisoners released immediately.

And of course self-id as trans.

Seems like a flawless policy proposal. Wink

They also, if I recall correctly, wanted to be able to operate on each other.

It was so off the chart crazy, it was difficult to believe.

Trixie78 · 26/04/2021 21:59

Psychologists shouldn't be bloody prescribing anything they don't have the training and are not medical doctors usually.

Terranean · 26/04/2021 22:25

Any free tokens for the article?

NotBadConsidering · 27/04/2021 01:38

Every day, I read this forum and my mind boggles as a new batshit idea more crazy than yesterday appears.

Zinco · 27/04/2021 06:31

Well if you aren't qualified to prescribe any medications, then it's best to start things off by prescribing off label experimental drugs to children that can't properly consent to them. Fuck it, just jump in the deep end!

Cwenthryth · 27/04/2021 07:39

@highame

Can anyone remember something last year (not sure it was the BPS but looking at this, it might well be) where they were following guidelines by a TRA which were then deleted and they had to backtrack. Maybe this is part of the same thing. Very interesting, very illuminating
That was the BACP, their guidelines written in 2018 by Dr Meg-John Barker (non-binary partner of Edward Lord) and the original version was incredibly sexist as well as offensive to people with autism and northern women. It was pretty jaw dropping that anyone thought it was ok to the extent it was published by a national professional body. They still publish guidelines written by Barker last updated in 2019, don’t know how much of the original survived!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3339137-BACP-Gender-Sexual-and-Relationship-Diversityp-by-Dr-Meg-John-Barker#prettyPhoto

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