Men and women can get periods now?

[PlanterGents]

I’m shocked. I didn’t think official NHS advice would say this.

Men can’t get periods. Why confuse matters? This is medical advice.

I don't think that's saying men have periods...its saying for women who's periods have stopped..isn't it??

I originally thought so but actually, the grammar they’ve used implied otherwise

I don't think it's saying what you think, it's for men, (break) and women whose periods have stopped, I.e. it doesn't include women who are having periods. I agree it reads like that in the current climate though.

Actually you’re right bloody hell

Yes, the second "for" makes it clear that Kittykat93's reading is what was intended.

A comma after "men" might have helped, even if not strictly grammatically correct.

Yes. This is very dangerous if you are a young person and don’t understand that by ‘men’ they mean ‘transmen’.

This is where language needs to be clear and concise.

@PlanterGents

I originally thought so but actually, the grammar they’ve used implied otherwise

I disagree. It doesn’t say for men and women, it says for men and for women who’s periods have stopped

I understood it as the main cause of anaemia in men is bleeding in the stomach and in women only the main cause if they are no longer menstruating. ??

And grammatically correct.

Commas are important.

But why is it just for women whose periods have stopped? As in, can women with periods and post-menopausal women also have IDA just like men?

If it helps OP I thought the same as you when I first read it. This is what happens really when you can't trust medical resources. You have to question everything.

Bleeding in the stomach is the most common cause of IDA. This is caused by [factors]. For women who menstruate, the cessation of their periods is a significant factor in suggesting IDA.

[A clearer way of putting the initial quote].

I think there is supposed to be a comma after the word men.

I agree that you have misread this. It would only have the meaning you state in your original post if there was not a second “for” before women. From context, leading cause of anemia, periods must be the highest cause of this for women who still menstruate. If you’ve stopped, this falls away and the leading cause would be the same as for men.

Periods of what? Lucidity?

Hopefully a demonstration of the mighty power of the tiny comma.

That or the world has gone properly mad.

@Helleofabore

And grammatically correct.

Commas are important.

They are......they save lives...... Let’s eat Grandma And all that.

Of course it would have been clearer if they had put women first ...but that would mean putting men second. At least they wrote "whose" and not "who's"!

@YetAnotherSpartacus

Bleeding in the stomach is the most common cause of IDA. This is caused by [factors]. For women who menstruate, the cessation of their periods is a significant factor in suggesting IDA.

[A clearer way of putting the initial quote].

"For women, menstruation is the most common cause of IDA. For women who don't get periods, bleeding in the stomach and intestines is the most common cause of IDA.

For men, bleeding in the stomach and intestines is the most common cause of IDA.

Bleeding in the stomach and intestines can be caused by: [factors]"

Is what I think they intend to convey. It is other, unclear messaging around men having periods which makes us read this wrong.

@lonel

Of course it would have been clearer if they had put women first ...but that would mean putting men second. At least they wrote "whose" and not "who's"!

My thoughts exactly

For women, menstruation is the most common cause of IDA. For women who don't get periods, bleeding in the stomach and intestines is the most common cause of IDA

Do you mean for women who have unexpectedly stopped menstruating or who are menopausal?

This is why all medical information must be absolutely and unequivocally clear and factual, no faffing around with language or trying to appease feelings, just simple straightforward facts in clear, concise, easy to understand universal language and terms.

Confusion and obfuscation is dangerous in a medical context.

I actually read that as two separate things. For men, and for women whose periods have stopped. If they were saying for men and women then it would be for men and women whose periods have stopped.

For women who don't get periods, bleeding in the stomach and intestines is the most common cause of IDA

Do you mean for women who have unexpectedly stopped menstruating or who are menopausal?

I would suggest they mean women who don’t regularly get periods eg are on birth control that ceases periods or are menopausal etc. It’s not saying “women who aren’t (currently) menstruating” as in “right this minute” or who happen to be in week 3 of their cycle etc

It’s really poor.y written however you look at it.