Personally, I was 'radicalised on Mumsnet, by chatting with and reading threads by intelligent women.
This from her 'Letters from Suzanne' emails:
"I got all radicalised without going on Mumsnet!!
Suzanne Moore
Apr 16
I am doing exactly what I said people should not do. That’s because I CAN. Having moaned a lot about Twatter I am responding to an article that I would not have seen were I not loon scrolling there.
An article by Katie J.M. Baker was being praised by women I like and have worked with. It was in Lux magazine /website which I thought might be about high end watches or some such but turns out to be short for ROSA LUXEMBURG. It professes itself to be “playful”. Did Rosa die for this? Apparently so.
Anyway this piece was by an American explaining why horrible British women are so horrible ie .transphobic. The evidence M’Lud : Mumsnet.
OK some definitions here or rather because I am indeed half-American shall we say proclamations?Transphobic now ceases to have much meaning just as ‘trans’ nowmeans little seeing as it now cover everything from cross-dressing, to full surgical transition to just thinking you might be a different gender to the one you appear to be. Thus phobes have their work cut out as who can really tell? I neither fear not am afraid of trans people but it’s too late now , the committee that decided this stuff decided it long ago.
It’salways shocking to have one’sown culture explainedespecially by reporters who don’t report, or talk to anyone who might disagree with them. That’s called being a columnist and I should know as I am one.
The thesis being rolled out here is that Mumsnet is where women get “radicalised”. Wow.Just why is it that so many English , Welsh , Scots and Irish women are so stroppy and do not accept trans ideology and are all vile TERFs unlike all lovely bi-coastal Americans? Why?
Well I don’t go on Mumsnet although I did a discussion for them years ago and it all seemed perfectly fine plus I got a goody bag. I will go anywhere for goody bag, that’s how radical I am.
Was it all white privileged types? No idea. It was pretty Guardiany if I had to guess. But the one thing these women had in common is that they all had children and they had found it helpful to talk to other women about this and then found they ended up talking about a lot of other stuff too.
Almost like actual people?!
Nothing like this existed when I had my first child and I found it all pretty lonely to be honest so I am glad it does now. Anyway Mumsnet women chatting is now a hotbed of radicalisation. I love this. Any decent journalist who has lived both here and in the States might understand the historical differences of our feminisms and there are many but hey why bother with suffrage, the law, the Equality Act, maternity leave when you can blame women chatting?
Yes its true there are threads on Mumsnet that are not happy about self-ID, about transwomen in prisons, toilets, refuges etc. Guess what a woman who has just had a baby may believe that biological sex is the real deal?She has just shoved another human being out of her own body and she may be feeling isolated and pooreras a result but find she is living in a society that says motherhood is the highest state she can achieve.
I have many friends who could not or chose not to have children but they also believe that biological sex is real. We have no differences there. I don’t know a single woman who has any personal prejudice against trans folk. I do know a lot of angry women who are fed up with being told that what we know, what we have lived, and that what we call ourselves is no longer valid. I didn’t need Mumsnet for that but well done Mumsnet if you have facilitated such discussions.
Motherhood is of course venerated and utterly despised. Motherfucker is a term of abuse although there are many mothers who fuck and people who fuck them.
So how I wonder did I manage to get radicalised all by myself with only a glance at Mumsnet?A quick starter for ten?
1)From very young I was told I could not do what boys did
2)Boys did things to me that I did not want them to do
3)My body did things I had no control over, from bleeding to conceiving
4)My insides did not match my outsides but isn’t that just how it is?
5)People came along and told me there was a special words for this. If I was not ‘trans’, I was ‘cis’ and I rejected this binary because the binary was the problem in the first place.
6)I want to keep my rights based on sex based legislation
7)I understand the difference between sex and gender because I am a materialist. Read some Marx if you don’t get my drift
8)It is not my job to affirm the identity of others. We exist in relation only to each other. You may define yourself as you so desire but I do not have to agree with your definitions. Tough titty.
- I know how hard women worked to have the rights we have and I will not stand by and watch them erased in the name of “inclusiveness”
10 I recognise what an ally is. If you think attacking Mumsnet furthers the cause of trans people then bully for you. Please name the rights that trans people do not have in the UK compared to the US. Be specific.Please talk about money too. Yes how much does to transition here as opposed to the States? Told you I was a materialist.
If women chatting without male mediation radicalises women I can only suggest we do it more. Mumsnet is not really my bag.
But StroppyCuntNet ™and I’m there."