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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scottish Greens Manifesto

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/04/2021 11:25

Full manifesto available here:

greens.scot/ourfuture

Women and Equalities excerpts:

The Scottish Greens stand firmly for inclusive,
intersectional feminism which recognises not only that gender inequality runs deep in our society, but also that it is affected by other kinds of inequality like wealth, disability, racial injustice, LGBT+ discrimination and more.

The impact of COVID has worsened pre-existing
gender inequalities, from the uneven burden of
both paid and unpaid care work, to the impact of gender based violence and the barriers to accessing support under the pandemic restrictions. However there have also been positive developments. Many employers have been forced to recognise not only that flexible and remote working is possible, but also how gender inequality affects the way people’s home lives impact on their working lives. Learning
from the experience of COVID could result in
real improvements to equal, accessible and flexible working arrangements.

The Scottish Greens will:
• Fully integrate gender budgeting into all public
budgeting processes.
• Place closing the gender pay gap at the heart of our plans for a green recovery.
• Support the work of the expert group
established to examine how the criminal justice
system deals with misogyny.

We will:
• Deliver long overdue reforms to the Gender Recognition Act, including statutory self declaration, recognising non-binary identities and all genders, and providing access to health care for trans minors with parental or guardian consent.
• Introduce an informed consent model of trans
healthcare, and in the meantime continue to
push for access to Gender Identity Clinics
within 18 weeks, in line with NHS standards
for other services.
• Ban so-called “conversion therapy”, which refers to unethical and unnecessary interventions that seek to change the sexual orientation or gender identity of LGBT+ people or alter a person’s sex characteristics without
their consent.
• Ensure LGBT+ inclusion in Scottish
Government international development policies,
and enshrining the Yogyakarta human rights
principles into Scots law.

We will fight for the decriminalisation of sex work to ensure sex workers are legally protected from exploitation, trafficking and violence and have improved access to support and healthcare.

The Scottish Greens believe we need to do
much more to tackle endemic sexual harassment and violence against women in Scotland. We will develop a strategy that effectively prevents and responds to violence, and that centres the needs and concerns of survivors. At its heart will be a focus on education, through ensuring the delivery of high quality consent based relationship and sex education, training and information campaigns, and on ensuring public services better respond to survivors of abuse. We support reform of the criminal justice system so that it better works for survivors, and will create a Victims Commissioner for Scotland to represent the interests of victims and to drive improvements and innovation in the justice system.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/04/2021 08:10

Apologies, I didn't mean to mislead. I was using women and equality to summarise the theme of the snippets I pulled - I didn't mean to infer that there was an actual section called "Women and Equality*

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ChaToilLeam · 16/04/2021 08:13

No chance of them getting my vote. Woke authoritarians in pretty green packaging, and a disaster for women.

highame · 16/04/2021 08:29

How big a part of the Green Manifesto is LGBT (by this I really mean the T) because on the Beeb they were talking about the Green Manifesto and of all the things mentioned, not one single bit about the T and women's rights?

RedDeerRunning · 16/04/2021 09:09

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

I do agree that the waiting lists for gender clinics are appalling. The problem, though, isn't an admin one - it's that they don't have the workforce to manage the huge spike in referrals. We could train more staff (a challenge as this is such an unevidenced specialism and it takes 10 years to train a specialist medic) or we could investigate why so many young people are having gender issues.
This is the point that no one's getting. Fewer and fewer doctors want to touch this particular toxic area of 'health' and so the growing waits are inevitable. Setting up more clinics won't solve the problem as they can't recruit the prescribers. GPs are reluctantly prescribing with a metaphorical gun held to their heads.
OhHolyJesus · 16/04/2021 09:52

because on the Beeb they were talking about the Green Manifesto and of all the things mentioned, not one single bit about the T and women's rights?

I don't know about the Scottish Greens but from the E&Ws Greens and the recent conference which I attended in part it's very much dominated by the T and Q. The motions that were passed and the ones that were voted down are direct evidence of that.

I think the response from the SGs in the medical forensics bill and the Johann Lamont are very telling.

Of course this might not be the best face to present to the National state broadcaster in upcoming elections and it would now be considered old news.

I've been told by an SG member that lots of new members signed up due to their stance on replacing gender with sex. That could be imaginary.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 16/04/2021 10:02

I think it is telling that they couldn't recruit a consultant post to cover a maternity leave in Aberdeen, RedDeer. No one, in the entire country, wanted a consultant post?

And, now, who'd want to work in a field where stating facts about a patient's circumstances is a hate crime in Scotland?

Plus, obs+gyn has almost been the most litigious area of medicine. I suspect that is about to change - they'll get sued if they don't do what the patient wants, and they'll get sued if they do and the patient is harmed.

The trans community themselves believe solving the waiting list is just a matter of getting more clinics. I don't think the Greens commitments will make any difference at all - this area of medicine has no evidence, and most medics take "first do no harm" quite seriously, PH could build a GIC in every town and I genuinely don't think it would make any impact on waiting lists.

The sensible thing would be massive investment in CAMHS focussed on neurodiversity, ACE and support for young people who are questioning their sexuality. Get the kids who aren't actually gender dysphoric off the GIC waiting lists and into appropriate care and support - at the moment CAMHS is so overwhelmed that the slightest hint of a gender issue and the kid is transferred to GIC because that isn't CAMH's scope.

OhDear2200 · 16/04/2021 10:14

Local elections here (not in Scotland) but I used to always vote green in local. Not anymore.

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