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Surrogacy for a Sister - account of jealousy from Reddit

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OhHolyJesus · 11/04/2021 10:33

This long account was on Reddit and came from a Singapore media site. I've seen the story before but not in this much detail. The argument for so-called altruistic surrogacy in families is about it all being loving and supportive and just a beautiful thing to do for an infertile sibling or for your gay brother and his partner. I think this is short sighted and it doesn't really cover what the reality can be. I think the likelihood of coercion is higher in families and the lines are blurred further when situations like this arise.

Woman decides to become the surrogate for her sibling struggling with fertility issues
The pregnant woman shared: “My sister was having some fertility issues and is not able to have a safe pregnancy. I offered to carry the baby for her and her husband. I am now currently six-and-a-half months along and everything is going well.”
She further explained that when the family found out she was pregnant, her sibling started to act weird.
She wrote: “I understood that she is going through an emotional time. I mainly thought this was going to be something just between her and her husband. I was wrong and she has begun to act pregnant in her daily life.”
There were several times when the woman chose to ignore her sister’s behaviour.
For instance, she mentioned: “At first it was just small things like having her husband run out to get the food she was 'craving' but it developed into things like wearing maternity wear. She also gets annoyed if I talk about my cravings or pregnancy symptoms around her. These things don’t bother me much and I just think my sister wants to feel involved.”
'I snapped at her that she is not actually pregnant and does not get how exhausting it can be'
They were out shopping for the baby’s essentials together and the sister would (understandably) become frustrated when salespeople directed their attention to the pregnant sister.
The pregnant woman would then have to explain that her sister is the mother. However, things got out of her hand when they entered the final store to set up a baby registry, she wrote.
“I must have looked exhausted because as we were waiting the salesperson brought over a chair for me to sit while the registry paperwork was done. When she brought it over she did say something like ‘Here’s a chair for mum’. I didn’t correct the salesperson this time and just sat down,” she said.
Her sister then came and asked her to get up and give her the chair. “I asked her why and tried explaining that I was tired. My sister berated me by saying the salesperson said the chair was for the mum and that she was supposed to sit. She said that this was her registry appointment and how dare I act like this was all about me,” the user wrote.

She further added that she tried to reason with her sister, but without any positive response. And thus the inevitable happened.
“I snapped at her that she is not actually pregnant and does not get how exhausting it can be,” she said.
“I told her I am trying my best to appease her but she is being ridiculous,” she added. A scene was created, her sister cried and felt "ashamed" for not being able to fall pregnant and she stomped out of the store.
Their mother also told the pregnant daughter that she should have just stood up and let her sister have the chair.
The surrogate mum, unable to understand where and how is she wrong in the situation, then posted her problem on the internet. She said: “I know this whole thing must seem so small and stupid because it’s about a chair.” She asked if she was in the wrong about the situation.
Woman receives support and advice from other mums
Other Reddit users supported her and shared their suggestions on how the surrogate mum needs to deal with the situation. Let’s take a look at what they had to say.
Counselling required
A user named Gingersnapp3d wrote: “I think your sister is mentally unstable and needs help dealing with what she’s going through. She’s gotten to the point where she is putting you and the baby’s health, not at risk per se but not as a priority. There’s something wrong here that I think needs a professional.”
Need for infertility grief
A user named DirtyPrancing 65 said: “She should probably not have agreed to carry her sister’s child until she’d gone through therapy for infertility grief. Even adoption agencies won’t let you have a baby until you’ve grieved the fact you won’t have a kid on your own.”
Consider surrogate mum as a competition
User Hipnip1219, wrote: “I am sure at some point she will be cutting you out of her and the babies life. She will see you as competition and worry that the child will love you more. She won’t ever be able to let it go, and maybe terrible to the child if they remind her of you. Please ensure that you have a chat with her husband and your parents prior to handing the baby over. She may suffer from her own version of postpartum when the baby gets here and she faces the enormity of it all.”
Ungrateful
A user named srhth13 wrote: "Plus she seems ungrateful to op for carrying her baby. Wait, another point, I can’t believe her MUM is on her sister’s side. Unacceptable. 'Just let her have the seat'? Does she not see the main issue that the sister thinks OP is shaming her for not being able to be preggo? Wow. They are all taking her (OP) for granted while OP’s sister is playing the victim. That is how it seems to me.”
The child will be affected
Many mums often struggle with the question: How does surrogacy affect the child?

One mum Celia felt that in this scenario, surrogacy will have an impact on the child. She mentioned: “Oh great, now I’m concerned about the child having developmental problems. If it does, the OP will be getting the blame and the child risks being abused for not being ‘perfect’ after all the mother (not OP) ‘went through’ to ‘bring it into this world’. When she did sweet FA during the whole process except put stress on the one carrying the freaking baby!”
While this debate raised pertinent questions on how surrogacy affects the "child" and the "non-biological mother", it also raises the question of the process in itself and whether it is really the right way for some women.
If you recall, a United Nations human rights expert also cautioned last year that children face the risk of becoming commodified as surrogacy becomes more prevalent.
So if you are thinking of being a surrogate mum or having a baby through surrogacy, there are certain crucial things that you must know.
How does surrogacy affect the child?
A team of British researchers led by Susan Golombok, a professor of family research and the director of the Centre for Family Research at the University of Cambridge, found that children born with the help of a surrogate may have more adjustment problems – at least at age seven – than those born to their mother via donated eggs and sperm.
The results suggest that it’s more difficult for youngsters to deal with the idea that they grew in an unrelated woman’s womb than with the concept that they are not biologically related to one or both parents.
Obviously, as a parent, it is your decision on how to share this intimate news with your children. However, being transparent will help to further strengthen your bond with your child. While you may decide to keep mum on the issue, a family member may just speak to them.
It’s always better to have an open discussion with them at an appropriate age (when you think you and your child are ready).
FAQs about surrogacy in Singapore
The issue of surrogacy has been in the limelight after the landmark High Court decision where a Singaporean gay man was legally allowed to adopt his biological child who was born through a surrogate mother.
However, the provision of surrogacy services is currently illegal in Singapore. Here are few FAQs to clear your doubt on this subject.

Then it goes on to talk about the law which allows international surrogacy but prohibits it entirely in Singapore.

OP posts:
MichelleofzeResistance · 11/04/2021 13:26

The naivety that a child can be created and the intensely emotional, physical prolonged issues of pregnancy and birth just will not happen is quite worrying. The poor child in this. Born to one sister, possessed by another, this is a family already in a complete mess, the 'real mum' issues are going to be incredibly sticky. Hello new human, we created you to exist your entire lifetime and spend your most formative years in our well intentioned mess. You will be born as an object of resentment and the cause of the family's tensions and problems, and be the centre of them. Good luck with adulthood!

The evidence just keeps stacking up that if surrogacy must exist at all then it must be very strictly regulated and the same standards of assessment and training for adults involved as in adoption. The needs of the child being brought into being must be paramount. And the issue is that surrogacy is all about the wants, needs and feelings of the adults.

WeRoarSometimes · 11/04/2021 15:25

Adoption does the centre the needs of the child and how they can best be met, whilst recognising the child will endure the loss of birth mum/dad. Surrogacy arrangements simply do not recognise the birth mum as having a role to play with the child.

You can feel nothing but sadness for the pregnant lady in Singapore.

FannyCann · 11/04/2021 20:36

Thanks for posting OP.
I think sibling surrogacy is fraught with difficulty. There are several documented cases I've seen where jealousy and family dynamics have conspired to favour the infertile/gay sibling over the downtrodden one going through the pregnancy and childbirth.

WeRoarSometimes · 11/04/2021 21:30

I've had to support a co-worker whose elder brother and partner were trying to coerce her into becoming a surrogate mum due to their own infertility.
She was urged to be kind, to think of the family, only she could bring joy into their lives etc.
The coercive behaviour was frightening and she moved to Scotland. She was a brilliant advocate for our service-users but the pressure from the brother and her parents was too great.

OhHolyJesus · 27/04/2021 17:19

Some more coercive behaviour shown here, WeRoar, also from Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/6nugyy/iforceddmygirlfrienddtobeeasurrogateefor_our/

OP posts:
RedToothBrush · 27/04/2021 17:29

@FannyCann

Thanks for posting OP. I think sibling surrogacy is fraught with difficulty. There are several documented cases I've seen where jealousy and family dynamics have conspired to favour the infertile/gay sibling over the downtrodden one going through the pregnancy and childbirth.
You mean discrimination due to biology and ability to reproduce?

Who would have thought?

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