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The Irish government will host a biennial celebration for LGBTI+ children

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XXSex · 10/04/2021 08:59

www.gov.ie/en/publication/e8f4b-about-the-campaign/

Are there any other governments doing this around the world?

(As an aside intersex are lumped in with transgenderHmm)

The Irish government will host a biennial celebration for LGBTI+ children
The Irish government will host a biennial celebration for LGBTI+ children
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XXSex · 10/04/2021 09:04

In case anyone is interested in reading the document this stems from see linked document here. This odd the Program for Government Strategy

You can see how many times the government was to educate teachers, schools, sports bodies, gardai, employers and NGOs about trans issues

assets.gov.ie/24459/9355b474de34447cb9a55261542a39cf.pdf

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YouNoob · 10/04/2021 10:17

The strategy mentions using evidence based approach throughout the document and says this:

One of the challenges of developing this Strategy lay in the limited availability of Irish-specific data, statistics and quantitative research relating to young LGBTI+ people in Ireland and, more broadly, the general LGBTI+ population in Ireland. Consultations, surveys, and so on, collate information from population samples, yet at a fundamental level, the challenges of measuring the LGBTI+ population remain. The Central Statistics Office (CSO) measures civil partnerships and same-sex marriages, and we should examine the role the Census may have in measuring the LGBTI+ population, although we understand the limitations of this tool for measuring such a population...

^ ...While the infrastructure of this Strategy itself, and the Report of the consultations with Young People in Ireland, offers a good insight into the lives of LGBTI+ young people, the limited availability of data relating to LGBTI+ people in Ireland was evident at all stages of the strategy development; during the environmental analysis, throughout the consultation process, and during Oversight Committee and Youth Advisory Group discussions regarding specific issues and actions. The reliance on limited data and surveys, as well a tendency for the LGBTI+ sector to refer to British or American data where Irish data is not available, hinders a strategic assessment of the LGBTI+ population’s needs and the development of appropriate responses.^

This also caught my eye because it specifically mentions lesbians who are missing from the conversation:

Although there are specific sexual health needs for the LGBTI+ community, particularly amongst men who have sex with men, healthy, respectful relationships should be the experience of all young people who choose to be in relationships, or have sexual partners, regardless of their gender expression or sexual identity. That said, the frequent emphasis on male sexual health should not overshadow the sexual health needs of young lesbian and bisexual women, which are often missing from the conversation.

Idk, OP, as a strategic plan it's fine. Obviously, there are some things in there that I don't particularly agree with, but nothing I am surprised by given the climate.

XXSex · 10/04/2021 11:11

Objective 10
Provide an inclusive physical environment for transgender and intersex young people

And in particular provide gender neutral toilets. Well they’ve just brought out a new technical guidance for schools where all toilets will now be mixed sex.

The Irish government will host a biennial celebration for LGBTI+ children
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YouNoob · 10/04/2021 11:30

@XXSex

Objective 10 Provide an inclusive physical environment for transgender and intersex young people

And in particular provide gender neutral toilets. Well they’ve just brought out a new technical guidance for schools where all toilets will now be mixed sex.

Yes, I saw that. It's not totally unexpected given the government and the climate in Ireland. Not that it's right, absolutely not. That and sports. Is there any pushback on gender neutral toilets by schools, heads, unions, anyone else? It's a huge safeguarding issue and needs to be addressed as such. I know that parents have successfully overturned plans to have gender neutral toilets in specific schools in the UK, but there's no strategic plan coming from the government here.
Thingybob · 10/04/2021 12:03

@XXSex

www.gov.ie/en/publication/e8f4b-about-the-campaign/

Are there any other governments doing this around the world?

(As an aside intersex are lumped in with transgenderHmm)

They want submissions for an event that is being held in January 2021?

Maybe magic communities can travel back in time?

SusannahMartin · 11/04/2021 08:17

Ireland seems to stick the i into the lgbtq moniker more than any other country - so they say lgbti more often than lgbtq. Does anyone know why?

XXSex · 11/04/2021 10:11

Don’t forget that we always include the Q and the + as well as the I. Full spaghetti soup!

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