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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Need a handhold... Made a stand in a public arena

60 replies

Womansisterdaughtermother · 07/04/2021 16:08

Hello
I've been lurking here for yrs and made a v public stand against gender ideology today after mulling it over for about a week. I feel sick to my core now and was wondering did anyone else feel similarly or if anyone would be able to pm me for a chat....

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 07/04/2021 18:25

Well done OP, courage calls to courage Thanks

Womansisterdaughtermother · 07/04/2021 18:27

I'm sitting here re reading all your comments of support and solidarity, and sharing of experiences... . Thank you so much each and every one of you who has taken time to post... .... It is a v big comfort that I will re-read over this evening....

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Newuser123123 · 07/04/2021 18:28

I did it and it blew up, was worried I was going to get in loads of trouble but it was actually fine. Had loads of support on here and is mostly forgotten about now. There are more of us than you think! X

Cuntysnark · 07/04/2021 18:51

I spoke up at a mayoral candidate meeting. The candidate did engage ‘nicely’ but I did pull them up on my question-it was about women. After the meeting several audience members thanked me & the candidate engaged further. Was scary but once lockdown is over I shall do it again. And again.
Well done you. There’s a lot of us :-)

Womansisterdaughtermother · 07/04/2021 18:57

Mermoose thank you so much for that. I can see the range of emotions I am experiencing there v clearly in that article. Omg isn't it mad though that we are all pussyfooting around largely unable to say what we think.... I feel kind of naive alsoc... Naive to think I could go against this in any way and expect there wouldn't be major pushback

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Womansisterdaughtermother · 07/04/2021 18:59

Thanks V much Derigeur I need reminding of that, many have drunk the koolaid and just will not hear anything that threatens that high.

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adviceseekingnamechanger · 07/04/2021 19:16

Power to you OP. You've done a brave thing and you're helping fight back against a harmful ideology. No-one needs to put pronouns anywhere. It's actually against the Yogyakarta principles as it puts pressure on people to out or misgender themselves if they're not ready to talk about their gender. But no-one cares about that as long as they get their way, of course.

EdinburghFeminist · 07/04/2021 19:32

Thank you for being so brave OP. 💐 You will always have support here.

AdHominemNonSequitur · 07/04/2021 20:33

You stood firm for your principles. It was not the easy route but in the long term will cause less pain than living with the cognitive dissonance.

This movement is insidious and has put society in a collective double bind.

JoodyBlue · 07/04/2021 20:38

Flowers just to say well done OP. I don't have long tonight to post. But yes I recognise the way you feel every single time I post to personal FB or any time I enter a discussion online about women's rights. But there are a growing number of us, we are not wrong, as long as we hold to women's rights. If there is a conflict between women's rights and other rights it is there to be discussed. There is no reason at all not to hold on to that. We are doing this for each other, for our daughters and sons, and trans allies. Big hug to you.

Sickoffamilydrama · 07/04/2021 20:43

Well done Op I've done similar or was very hard particularly as it resulted in a women in my social club ( think WI but not) leave the club because of my transphobia & write a letter of complaint to the national chair.

Not very nice particularly as I'd said to her we can disagree and still be respectful to reach other.

CriticalCondition · 07/04/2021 20:52

Well done, OP.

It feels pretty scary at first, like you've burnt some boats. But you haven't, you'll have built some bridges to other like minded people who are for women.
Flowers

Igmum · 07/04/2021 20:56

Well done OP. You are wonderful. I've had loads of private conversations with people and found vast swathes of fantastic GC women. I haven't yet had the nerve to broach this in public. Thank you for speaking out. I hope one day I will join you Thanks

ChewtonRoad · 07/04/2021 21:08

OP, my hand is extended to hold yours, with thanks for your courage.

EyesOpening · 07/04/2021 21:26

OP I remember seeing a woman in the crowds at the Sarah Everard vigil/protest who was holding a placard saying something along the lines of “when my daughters ask me what did I do, I cannot say nothing”
This is now you.
Flowers

ChattyLion · 07/04/2021 21:34
Flowers
Cagedbirdsinging · 07/04/2021 21:50

Thank you for being brave .
Thank you Star

SpringTimeDream · 07/04/2021 21:59

I came across a social media post about toilets that have lgbtq+ inclusive...with packs that nake them safe? What does that mean
May I ask does that mean separate toilets or the woman's ones?
Sorry for my lack of knowledge

SpringTimeDream · 07/04/2021 22:00

In the wrong place heck sorry 😞

StillAFemale · 07/04/2021 22:16

Well done - I’ve spoken up in a few places with no significant negative consequences yet but i pick my places and there’s one area of my industry I’m very careful what I say

RoisinL · 07/04/2021 22:29

You did a great thing, OP. Proud of you.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 07/04/2021 22:33

Avoid engaging in any and all discussions that feature the word trans. Everything you do (I assume) is for women so keep every comment about women. “This is about women and girls’ rights”.

Good tip, thanks MrsW.

BrizzleGirl · 07/04/2021 22:49

Well done OP and thank you for being brave.

You are on the right side of history. Thanks

Womansisterdaughtermother · 07/04/2021 23:03

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Womansisterdaughtermother · 07/04/2021 23:06

Ps I did get roundly rebuffedBlush at the time by a powerful 50 something Yr old man, who has guzzled the kool aid.

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