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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans and race filter on Grindr

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whatnow41 · 05/04/2021 18:29

It's interesting to see from the perspective of gay men how they feel about their space, in this case Grindr, being no longer sex segregated. In the same way that lesbian dating apps are filled with Trans women who cannot be filtered out, Grindr appears to be the same.

Also found the comment about removing the race filter interesting. Is it racist to have a sexual attraction for a specific physical type of person that excludes some races? When you're browsing an app and making instant judgements based on a profile pic and one line of text, it's hard to judge someone's essence or inner feelings and beliefs. No one should feel they have to be kind and swipe the other way, just in case they are being racist or transphobic otherwise.

As a bisexual woman, I know very well what type of man and type of woman I'm attracted to. It doesn't include trans, as I prefer masculine men and feminine women. That doesn't make me transphobic, just sure of who I'm physically attracted to.

Trans and race filter on Grindr
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whatnow41 · 05/04/2021 18:31

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Zinco · 05/04/2021 22:14

I don't see a problem with a race filter.

Maybe you're attracted to a particular race, maybe you're not attracted to a particular race, physically speaking. Maybe you want someone from your own cultural background.

I guess it's arguably slightly shallow to be limiting your choice of romantic partners on racial grounds, (I'm sure Grindr is all about romance), but it's no worse than having a preference for "I'm not interested in short men", or wanting your partner to be slim.

Knee-jerk wokeism imo to remove it.

MimiPigeon · 05/04/2021 22:23

It’s like when John Lewis removed the boy/girl filters from kids clothes. It’s an absolute pain in the arse to wade through pages of dresses and obviously gendered female clothing that I’m never going to buy for my son, just to satisfy some woke agenda. This is much the same - I can see why people don’t want to wade through pages of profiles that aren’t their type.

NiceGerbil · 06/04/2021 02:35

Bloody hell

This is just one person saying what they want. Not Grindr policy.

No different to ordering an Indian or a Chinese? Fucking hell.

NiceGerbil · 06/04/2021 02:38

John Lewis didn't remove boy girl. In the shops the sections are separate and I don't recall the boy/ girl not being on the site.

If they did change it, it can't have been for long. I used to buy a lot from them.

(My older daughter preferred the boys clothes, but that's neither here nor there).

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Forgotthebins · 06/04/2021 07:15

Mimipigeon I have literally just gone on the John Lewis website, gone to children’s clothes, and there they are in their gender-boxes all arranged by boy/girl and age. Fear not Mimipigeon you will not have to wade through dresses. So I am not sure what woke agenda has oppressed your John Lewis browsing habits. Those of us who don’t want to limit our kids choices to what a marketing person thinks is “gender-appropriate” can search for a term, like “children’s shorts” then filter for age, colour or whatever we want. Takes about 15 seconds. FYI, you could have done a filtered search too on items like “butch manly trousers for BOYS” if you found the time taken to click past dresses so triggering/time wasting when you had other important things to do, because I am sure your time is more valuable than the time of those of us who don’t like gender-boxes.

OP what’s the point about Grindr? Not sure how a gay hookup site affects me one way or the other. I think the ethnicity filter is pretty gross. Sex is a binary category that triggers sexual responses, ethnicity isn’t. But I don’t think it makes a difference to me what happens in an ultra-male-gay space. Some people in the LGBT community welcome trans people, some people do but do not want trans people on their dating apps and every combination of opinion exists. It’s not a public space, I think it is fitting that they find the right rules for themselves as a Grindr community. I wish people would leave Mumsnet FWR alone and not screenshot etc, on the same basis.

MimiPigeon · 06/04/2021 08:05

Mimipigeon I have literally just gone on the John Lewis website, gone to children’s clothes, and there they are in their gender-boxes all arranged by boy/girl and age
Yeah they switched it back because of the backlash. They made a huge fuss about going gender neutral and announced it everywhere, then quietly switched it back to being divided by gender when it turned out to be inconvenient for customers.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/john-lewis-boys-girls-clothing-labels-gender-neutral-unisex-children-a7925336.html

awana · 06/04/2021 09:01

As someone who is Asian, it's really grim to be chatted up by people who date only Asian women and fetishizes about them. We typically experience racism, stereotypes and misogyny in one throw of the dice. I'm sure people will find their preferences without the race filter but it doesn't help.

Kotatsu · 06/04/2021 09:10

I've got boys.. perhaps I shop differently to other people, but I tend to know roughly which type of garment I'm looking for, so I click on the kids age, then 'trousers' or whatever. For me, I then have to do this twice on some sites, as my youngest likes leggings, so I look through both the 'girls' and 'boys' sections. On other sites, like Polarn, I just click 'age 7 trousers' and I get all the trousers. Much easier. Since I don't want dresses, I just don't click for dresses.

If I click on 'New In' then I just scroll past the dresses, just like I scroll past whatever else there is that I'm not interested in!

Actually in the shops is more difficult - by having them so segregated, my youngest does get a bit embarrassed if it's loudly pronouncing 'GIRLS CLOTHES' above the leggings he would otherwise want to buy.

I think the Grindr filters is a tough one - because yes, there's no point being shown people you know you won't be interested in (this isn't a long-term relationship opportunity, it's entirely first impressions), but then as awana says, if you allow people to filter for, rather than filter against, you get the various chaser types who are after you for a specific attribute.

AnnaJamey · 08/05/2021 07:45

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GCAcademic · 08/05/2021 07:53

Er, I doubt you are going to find many women on a feminist board with experience of looking for sugar daddies, love.

justawoman · 08/05/2021 07:56

Or, indeed, on Grindr...

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