Lad culture/toxic masculinity

[oranguflange]

So I mindlessly stumbled across the most awful programme yesterday eve when I was looking for some trash tv. Ex on the beach. I watched an episode and couldn't stomach it any more. The blatant misogyny was horrendous.

The women were literally treated like pieces of meat, the male contestants openly rated the women on attractiveness and openly said things such as being disappointed when no 'fresh pussy' arrived that day. The women all seemed insecure and were rude about each other calling others ugly or basic etc. It's all dressed up as banter but it's really just an excuses for demeaning bullying behaviour.

Why are these dreadful programmes even on Tv in 2021? Why are we not doing more to combat this vile lad culture? I'm not the age demographic for this show(am in my 30s) but it was far worse than anything I'd seen or experienced in my 20s. Is this what happens when boys start watching porn at a young age and then don't receive any decent sex education?

I recently rewatched Men Behaving Badly and noticed how awful it was. I found it funny at the time. Probably being young means you accept misogyny as the way things are. Plus, being young and pretty you can capitalise on it. It's only when you're on the sharp edge it starts to hit you.

I know what you mean. I can see how blind I was to it myself when I was younger. However I also felt really insecure, worried constantly about my looks and if I was desired. Some of the way I was treated/behaviour I put up with makes me feel quite sad now and the behaviour on this show was much worse.

I really worry than we aren't educating kids properly, especially boys and this is the result. They are growing up on porn and reality tv which treats women like pieces of meat. Women are becoming increasingly insecure because of social media, these kind of programmes and the rise of cosmetic surgery. I feel like we have gone backwards and misogyny is getting worse.

This is highlighted by the numerous testimonies on anyone is invited at the moment.

@Strangeststrangment

I recently rewatched Men Behaving Badly and noticed how awful it was. I found it funny at the time. Probably being young means you accept misogyny as the way things are. Plus, being young and pretty you can capitalise on it. It's only when you're on the sharp edge it starts to hit you.

Best not watch re-runs of On the Buses on ITV3 😲

@Strangeststrangment. I was pleased (so I thought) to find Au Viedersen Pet (sp) on an obscure channel recently. Women continuously referred to as 'tarts' and 'skirt', rarely by name. I had always liked Jimmy Nail, but he wrote a series later on, can't remember the name, and unfortunately his attitude towards women was no better... It seems that so much older tv is spoilt when you 'see' this stuff.

You'd like to think that things had improved, but programmes like the Beach thing just illustrate that they haven't. I would like to blame acess to nasty porn, but it can't 'just' be that, surely?

I always found the premise of on the buses that all those pretty young girls found Stan attractive highly implausible.

It was the retro Two and a Half Men!

Yes. And all women in On The Buses were either 'crumpet' or 'battleaxe'. Never in the middle. Used to love it when I was a kid.

@oranguflange. That's an explanation, but so sad that there has not been much pushback.

@Strangeststrangment

I always found the premise of on the buses that all those pretty young girls found Stan attractive highly implausible.

It was the retro Two and a Half Men!

Let alone Jack the clippy who had a head like a foot and a permanent stub of a fag in his leery gob. Phwoar!

When the alternative is Blakey though, any port will do in a storm

I could never understand how wrinkly, old, letchy, balding Sid James was always partnered with much younger women in the Carry On series. Even when I was tiny I couldn't understand it, wish my parents had pointed out the misogyny, but I realise now my dad was a dreadful misogynist.

My Mum had carry on nurse on VHS. Still appallingly sexist but they did pair the lead female, twiggy like doe eyes beauty, with a handsome doctor.
Although Sid James roved around the edges making innuendo at Barbara Windsor.

I could never understand how wrinkly, old, letchy, balding Sid James was always partnered with much younger women in the Carry On series

I always thought the joke in the Carry On films was on the men; ageing, hapless losers, or effeminate mummy's boy losers; pathetically trying to pull attractive young women who openly laugh at them? I doubt many teenage lads would try and copy their approach after watching.

Correct me if I am wrong, but Did James got the girl in Carry on Dick and Carry on Henry?

I watched Grease at the weekend. Loved that film at 14. Now all I could see was upskirting and boy girl stereotypes. My DP and I even had a row about it as he called one of the girls a name and said it was because she slept around. I called him a sexist idiot. Yet he has a professional responsible job with daughters. It shows it is always there deep down.

Grease is a weird one. I saw it late as a teen so have always thought it was a weird one for all the girls in my primary school to be obsessed with. It points out sexism then doubles down and perpetuates them.
I can't believe your do could see Rizzo perform 'There are worse things I could do' and not see the fact that there was no way for these girls to win. Either they're ridiculed like Sandy for being frigid or shamed for not like Rizzo.
I hoped you pointed out that as Sandy is the one who changes her ways at the end of the film the subtext seems to be to 'Choose slut'.
Every single message in that film annoys me now I think of it, like the beautician Pink Lady whose choice to go into work instead of study is undermined, to the fact we're supposed to find the rapey subtext charming.

What I hear now Summer Nights is played.