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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What am I? Labels for forms

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watertheroses · 03/04/2021 08:38

I filled in a form recently that didn't ask for 'sex' but 'to which gender identity do you most identify'. I replied 'I don't identify with a gender'.

Having thought on this I wonder what my answer should have been. I am struggling with how to answer these questions as I don't 'identify' with certain gender stereotypes.

What do all the terms mean?

What am I?

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CricketClub · 04/04/2021 08:59

@sashh

I identify as not having a gender as it is a social construct damaging to all.

If I have room that's what I put.

‘Damaging to all’? It really isn’t.
sashh · 04/04/2021 11:17

‘Damaging to all’? It really isn’t.

Yes it is.

One example, there used to be separate men's and women's police forces.

When they 'amalgamated' what actually happened was that women were brought into the men's police.

Women police officers had good relationships with prostitutes, they had a network where they could track run away teens, they had other specialisms and all that was lost.

Male teachers are often under suspicion, particularly at primary, of being paedophiles.

Sex segregated services are needed, they are under threat of becoming single gender services.
Moat things are designed for Caucasian men whether that's kitchen worktops, pilot's seats, supermarket shelves.

sanluca · 04/04/2021 12:05

I would not fill it in. I can understand if certain forms ask for your sex if and when it is relevant, but no one, not even the government, needs to know your gender identity. It is a very personal and often fluid thing. It is also not a legal term, there is no clear definition and no objective criteria with which to verify it. So why are they asking it and what will the organisations or companies that ask for this information, do with it?

Leafstamp · 04/04/2021 12:18

@sanluca

I would not fill it in. I can understand if certain forms ask for your sex if and when it is relevant, but no one, not even the government, needs to know your gender identity. It is a very personal and often fluid thing. It is also not a legal term, there is no clear definition and no objective criteria with which to verify it. So why are they asking it and what will the organisations or companies that ask for this information, do with it?
I'm no longer filling in forms that ask for my gender. Or, if I absolutely must, then I make sure I do not fill in the gender question, and state that my sex is female.
MichelleofzeResistance · 04/04/2021 14:41

I also believe gender is damaging. I believe that gender creates a hierarchy that puts female people at the bottom, and is reliant on stereotypes that constrict both sexes - but particularly females.

Anyone of any sex should be free to dress and present and like and do whatever they like without having to worry what box they properly fit into - blow the boxes, be yourself. Gender is what puts Daddys little princess on pink t shirts and future superhero on blue t shirts and makes the pink t shirts skimpier, aimed at toddlers. It limits, restricts and is one of the means of oppressing women.

So no, not a fan. If you want to define yourself using gender then great, I believe in respecting everyone's choices and identities. And that means respecting some people see harm in gender as a concept, and don't want to be forced to declare that they comply with it. Some people need sex based definitions. Some people don't. Tolerance is a thing.

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