University of Oxford Study

[AnnaBananaFoFana]

This just came up as an ad on my FB feed. I’m new to the feminism boards but have been following with interest. Thoughts?

JFC.

Fuck that.

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English not their first language is it? Sorry but I don’t speak ‘woke’.

I did the survey yesterday - references to women all over it.

And no mention of trans here either.

Baffling they use the term person who menstruates then - I mean why?

And the study has “women” in the title!

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This came up on my Facebook too and I made the mistake of reading the comments. Half of them praising the "inclusive language" and most of the rest complaining about the term woman being used in the title, because "not everyone who has periods is a woman". 🙄

Interesting ... I suggest

1. Study and questionnaire designed by researcher who knows what a woman is

1. Facebook ad and publicising it designed by young woke junior who wasn't concerned about reaching those for whom English is a second language

I had this advert on Instagram and the caption said it was about women in the pandemic.
Then someone whined in the comments about not all women have periods and vice versa, then they added "don't worry we ask about your gender identity in this"
Clearly they only want to know the impact on biological women as the ones most likely affected by childcare etc (as stats have shown) but can't figure out the woke way of just saying that.

So instead we are menstruators.

I'm just laughing at the attempt to gender a uterus by filling it with flowers.

I don't know about anyone else but I feel like it's full of bitey snakes once a month.
Reminds me of the awful, 'Have you flowered yet?'

Hang on. Is this just a survey about the effect of the pandemic on women? Not actually about periods at all?

That graphic looks like a particularly nasty fungal infection!
I have no gender identity and I'm feeling very excluded by questionnaires that don't have an option to tick 'none' and have started writing that in the comments box, and correcting people conflating sex & gender.

The covering bit on the Oxford BioAnth Facebook page says:

"Please take part in this important research! Members of Oxford BioAnth have launched the first large scale study on the effects of the Covid-19 pandemic on women's* health.

The survey is open to ANYONE that has had a period at some stage in their life.

*We recognise that not all women menstruate, and not all who menstruate are women"

It is a general study on women's health in the pandemic (not just periods). You can't participate unless you expressly identify as a menstruating person. I did the survey because I wanted to see what it contained. I commented at the end that I found it offensive to be required to identify as a menstruating person. I also responded to the gender question stating that I had no gender (the options were "woman", "man", "non-binary" and "other (please state)").

@ThomasPenman

Hang on. Is this just a survey about the effect of the pandemic on women? Not actually about periods at all?

It’s about the impact of the pandemic on periods.

Oh for crying out bloody loud

At the very very best, it's better than "menstruators" as it at least specifies a time frame - I'd be able to accurately answer that, rather than "are you a menstruator".

That's all I can say, really.

As far as it goes, I think what they are looking for is more specific than women, it's women that have had periods.

But mainly they are trying to doge being jumped on I suspect. A hopeless task.

It's actually about periods so I think asking whether you're someone who has ever had periods is correct in this particular instance.

@FakeFruitShoot

It's actually about periods so I think asking whether you're someone who has ever had periods is correct in this particular instance.

Only women have periods.

By saying "menstruating person" it does actually get to the target demographic. Not relevant to transwomen, yes relevant to transmen...

One of the questions asks for gender identity and says something like "we assume that your biological sex is female". It's good quality stuff and worded correctly in my opinion. This is an important women's health issue so please do not be put off completing it.

Yeah my DF craves chocolate and gets a bit crampy, he thinks he might have had one once. He can fill it in. I shan't be bothering, this kind of thing just makes me head in the opposite direction on sight with eyes rolling.

@Clymene ok but different groups use different definitions of "women" and it is VITAL that only biological female's experiences are centred in this work. It is irrelevant whether transwomen feel sadder or perceive themselves to have more cramps each month. Lived experience of menstruating is key.