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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

United Nations Equality for Women

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takeawaydinner · 28/03/2021 16:46

www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/un-commission-urges-equality-for-women-in-decision-making/2021/03/27/4f8e54e6-8ec0-11eb-a33e-da28941cb9ac_story.html

It appears that the EU tried to ensure that Trans Women were centred in the push for equality. Confused

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takeawaydinner · 28/03/2021 16:48

"Some Western nations sought unsuccessfully to get the commission to recognize gender non-conforming and transgender women. The closest they got was a reference to women and girls “who experience multiple and intersecting forms of discrimination” and face “diverse situations and conditions.”

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takeawaydinner · 28/03/2021 16:50

"Saudi Arabia stressed that any reference to gender “means women and men” and to marriage as “between women and men"

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Tibtom · 28/03/2021 17:23

Funny how they claim sex binary is a western construct.

NiceGerbil · 28/03/2021 17:37

'Some Western nations sought unsuccessfully to get the commission to recognize gender non-conforming and transgender women'

Why is gender non-conforming being mentioned everywhere all of a sudden?

If they mean females who are gender non conforming then the ones who raised this think that GNC women are not currently included in the group women?

What new fuckery is this?

Olderstyle1 · 28/03/2021 17:42

Whatever it is it'll mean that women come off worse.

gardenbird48 · 28/03/2021 18:08

'Some Western nations sought unsuccessfully to get the commission to recognize gender non-conforming and transgender women'

What do they mean - gender non conforming women??

So these ‘Western nations’ think that I am as much of a woman as a male person??

Angry Angry Angry

saltedcaramelchocolate · 28/03/2021 18:58

I was reading about this yesterday

www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40252670.html

"The commission reaffirmed the blueprint to achieve gender equality adopted 25 years ago at the Beijing women’s conference and shone a spotlight on several major issues in the present day, including the imbalance of power between men and women in public life and the growing impact of violence against women and girls in the digital world."

So 23 years after the UN first set out a blueprint for achieving equality for women they reaffirmed the blueprint on achieving equality, which doesn't say much for what has been achieved in the last 23 years.
But the most heated debate was about language

"Diplomats were negotiating until almost the last minute over language on women human rights defenders and gender-based violence, following earlier debates on reproductive and sexual health and rights.

"Some western nations sought unsuccessfully to get the commission to recognise gender non-conforming and transgender women.

The closest they got was a reference to women and girls “who experience multiple and intersecting forms of discrimination” and face “diverse situations and conditions”.

I fear "gender non conforming" women will be open to interpretation in time to come. It was a compromise that opened the door.

The European Union said it would have liked to see “more ambitious language”

OldCrone · 28/03/2021 20:59

Some western nations sought unsuccessfully to get the commission to recognise gender non-conforming and transgender women.

What does this mean? "Transgender women" are male people who say they are women. "Gender non-conforming" women are women, so why wouldn't they be recognised as women? What is the definition of a "gender non-conforming" woman? What does a woman have to do to be considered "gender non-conforming" and therefore not really a woman according to some people?

NiceGerbil · 28/03/2021 21:13

I think they're trying this as planting it in with people with DSDs hasn't worked out the way they hoped.

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