Podcast worth listening to re male 'violence' TRIGGER WARNING

[ismiseeire]

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If you scroll down to the end of the written piece, there's a podcast to listen to the interview with the mother.

Young American girl, old(er) Irish rural farmer. He drowned himself and the little girl while coincidentally, the Mum was going to a Legal Aid advice session about divorce.

I'm Irish and I'm ashamed to be of a culture which allowed that fucker to exist in the first place. These utter bastards do exist. Because they were allowed to exist! It's only now that Irish women are saying 'Fuck that'.

In the podcast, the supervisor of the coastguard search talks about the man's family behaving unashamedly at the inquest.

I know that this sort of man is not confined to Ireland. But teach our young women to be independent and our young men to not be arseholes. The only good thing out of the podcast was the coroner's verdict.

Btw, it will leave you in tears in parts. I make no apologies for sharing it.

I'm sorry for posting it here, but I wasn't quite sure where to post it to be honest! I think it's educational (sadly) but I also feel like Clarissa's little life needs to be remembered too.

As for this utter shite where she can't even have her little child's remains exhumed - that infuriates me! Fucking Catholic Church no doubt.

Being Irish, I feel qualified to say, that there are a lot of men still being reared in Ireland with the feeling like they are God. It's wrong.

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Being Irish, I feel qualified to say, that there are a lot of men still being reared in Ireland with the feeling like they are God. It's wrong.

It's less overt and less publicly acceptable but I recognised so many attitudes from that story and account. It's still common and it underpins a sense of entitlement that is Old Testament in scale when it meets a challenge.

My brother is and was God. He has that God complex. It's bloody infuriating.

My brother is referred to by my relatives as, "The jewel in the crown of the family" and the rest of us (women/girls) have always been the "Also rans" no matter what we did or what our achievements are.

Are we still rearing them this way?

In the interview she refers to one thing that really resonates with me. She felt like he owned her and in his efforts to destroy her, her child was just collatoral damage. We need to start educating young girls on how to recognise these traits. She was only 16 when she met him and him 42. Her own poor parents must have been out of their minds.

I don't rear my children with the oldest or the 'son' being first! This is the shite it leads to. This is not an isolated case in Ireland. Usually they include the wife in the murder for good measure.

Family destroyers take on themselves the right to kill the wife and children - it's a wretched phenomenon. And it's not unusual for there to be so much sympathy for the man.

It was hard to learn that despite the note and the change in the will, so many people at the Coroner's Court were trying to put forward an alternate theory to avoid the truth that was staring them in the face.

Ye, utterly horrific to listen to. That little girl was nothing to him.

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Ye, utterly horrific to listen to. That little girl was nothing to him.

It's the social endorsement of the gaslighting that is gnawing away at me. The Coroner's verdict. All of the effort that went into managing the reputation of the man irrespective of the consequences of his actions.

It's almost as if the experience of that young woman and their child is irrelevant next to the drive to maintain that man's social reputation and standing.

The struggle she's now having to contest that will (that made no provision for her or their child) - is there any clearer indication that he regarded his wife and child as chattels? And even after his death, he's ensuring that his perspective is the one that is accepted.

I think it was his family who behaved badly at the coroner's court, not the general public. There will have been an element of it being a 'sad tragedy' rather than murder of an infant though.