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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ireland, another "woman" sex offender sentanced

61 replies

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 25/03/2021 22:23

'Woman jailed after being found with thousands of 'depraved' child abuse images'
(Reposted without term that is not allowed)

www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/woman-jailed-criminal-court-5392090-Mar2021/%3famp=1

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risefromyourgrave · 26/03/2021 07:21

“Biggs outlined letters from family and friends who characterised De Souza as a kind, loyal and trustworthy person with no evil or desire for children in her.“
I think the fact that De Souza had over 3000 images of child abuse begs to differ.

“ A friend outlined in a letter that sex work in Brazil was very dangerous with transgender women attacked and sometimes murdered in the street.”
And.....? What’s that got to do with this case?

“”A small number of child “anime” images were also found.”
No comment....

saltedcaramelchocolate · 26/03/2021 07:34

@miri1985

The rehabilitation program that is mentioned in that article is only available in Arbour Hill which is for male sex offenders (www.irishprisons.ie/prisoner-services/treatment-of-sex-offenders/). I would assume this person doesn't have a GRC and is still legally male so hopefully they are in a male prison.
While Arbour Hill is the usual place, a prisoner can be placed in another prison in special circumstances. So it is possible that the prisoner is in Limerick women's prison.

"Under the Irish Prison Service’s Sex Offender Management Policy (PDF), Arbour Hill Prison is designated as the national centre for imprisoned sex offenders with a full range of therapeutic interventions available. Midlands Prison and Wheatfield Place of Detention are designated as satellite centres where a narrower range of therapeutic interventions are available. Prisoners committed initially to other prisons are transferred to the satellite centres unless exceptional circumstances prevail."

Juliesipadwillcallyouback · 26/03/2021 08:14

Detective Garda Martin Allen told the court some of the child abuse images found were “unique” in that gardaí working the Cyber Crime division had not come across them before.

Christ.... Sad

inigomontoyahwillcox · 26/03/2021 08:32

Sorry - that judge couldn't make it any clearer that he is a paedophile sympathiser (for whatever reason - couldn't imagine why). Sickening.

XXSex · 26/03/2021 08:51

@inigomontoyahwillcox

Sorry - that judge couldn't make it any clearer that he is a paedophile sympathiser (for whatever reason - couldn't imagine why). Sickening.
He has proven to be very consistent in his lax sentencing of heinous crimes. There has been petitions to get him removed.
Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 26/03/2021 10:25

Juliesipad

I balked at that too, it is sickening isn't it.
Nearly 3000 cat 1 images, it's indefensible.
If anyone is interested The Countess Didn't Fight for This! Irish feminist group, are doing a Zoom webinar today on Prisons.Rhona Hotchkiss and Heather Mason are on it. It's at 5 today.

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Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 26/03/2021 10:28

It's free, here is the registration link bit.ly/3lN8JFt

That person is now the 3rd "woman" sex offender in 2 years.2 are in a women's prison and not yet known where this one will go but of they have a GRC they will go to a women's prison.
This can't keep going on and being ignored.

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Argoscatalogueandabingoma · 26/03/2021 19:06

@SunsetBeetch the thread you've linked no longer exists

ismiseeire · 26/03/2021 19:13

I'd say Arbour Hill (is it mixed?) will be considered too dangerous for her if she's put in with men, given that she's trans. Mind you, she could go into Mountjoy with all the female murderers I suppose.

Argoscatalogueandabingoma · 26/03/2021 19:21

Sorry sunset I was on "It'll never happen..." and it took ages for the link to work.

CandyLeBonBon · 26/03/2021 19:26

Fucks sake 😡🤬

aliceholland246 · 26/03/2021 19:29

@ismiseeire

I'd say Arbour Hill (is it mixed?) will be considered too dangerous for her if she's put in with men, given that she's trans. Mind you, she could go into Mountjoy with all the female murderers I suppose.
They should deport her soon as, never mind keeping her in our prisons
miri1985 · 26/03/2021 19:34

@ismiseeire

I'd say Arbour Hill (is it mixed?) will be considered too dangerous for her if she's put in with men, given that she's trans. Mind you, she could go into Mountjoy with all the female murderers I suppose.
Arbour Hill (male only) is seen as the most cushy and least dangerous of the male prisons in Ireland www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/notorious-irish-inmates-up-arms-12234557 Not sure how it would compare to the female wings of prisons.
irishfeminist · 27/03/2021 20:02

ismiseere there are very very few female murderers. The vast majority of women are in for nonviolent offences and are themselves more likely to be vulnerable than the general female population.

FemaleAndLearning · 27/03/2021 22:12

A nice person! The images were of 2 to 16 year olds bring penetrated or showing their genitals.

I agree with pp that if you don't get to the end of the article you wouldn't know this is a male. Why don't they use transwoman in the title or is it click bait for the more extreme notion that a female committed these crimes?

3timeslucky · 28/03/2021 15:07

@miri1985

The rehabilitation program that is mentioned in that article is only available in Arbour Hill which is for male sex offenders (www.irishprisons.ie/prisoner-services/treatment-of-sex-offenders/). I would assume this person doesn't have a GRC and is still legally male so hopefully they are in a male prison.
They surely wouldn't report that it was a woman if there was no GRC? The fact that they're reported as a woman suggests to me that they have some legal right to claim and would be able to access a woman's prison. I would love to be wrong. This is so fucked up.

How many transwomen are in Irish prisons who have not been convicted of either violent, sexual or violent and sexual crimes? Recently there have been 4 reported incarcerations of transwomen, all for crimes in those categories. Does anyone know if there are others in prison for different types of offences?

justanotherneighinparadise · 28/03/2021 15:26

I refuse to believe it as it never happens. This individual surely doesn’t exist and is merely a figment of our collective imaginations

WhiskyIrnBru · 28/03/2021 15:37

@Wishingwell75

What a weird article in the sense that it seems at pains to explain this things vile behaviour. Plenty of people have addiction issues without the compulsion to play a part in the abuse of children. How can she be described as a good person is beyond me. I also think it's despicable to use the term child pornography, it suggests consent and I think it's used to try and normalise it. It's the abuse of children and should be called as such.

Nail on the head.

XXSex · 28/03/2021 17:27

Does anyone know if there are others in prison for different types of offences?

I think that the child rapist was the first one circa mid 2019. It was a parliamentary question and reported in the Law Society Gazette. I didn’t see anything prior to this case. So it’s basically 4 in a very short period and all for violence and/or sexual offences.

3timeslucky · 28/03/2021 17:38

It is so out of kilter with female pattern criminality/convictions. Where are the alarm bells????

Sunhoop · 28/03/2021 20:15

Why don't they use transwoman in the title or is it click bait for the more extreme notion that a female committed these crimes?

The journal is Ireland's most "woke" news site. They will have been protecting their agenda by obscuring the fact that this was a biological man.

They have a transwoman columnist. She is one of the well known TRA's here.

GNCQ · 28/03/2021 23:06

Well it should be reported by another outlet that isn't so completely anti-women using the right descriptors for this utterly inhumane person.

Janeyso · 29/03/2021 18:40

I’ve just emailed this to the editor [email protected]

To the Editor,

The article by Fiona Ferguson published on your website

www.google.com/amp/s/www.thejournal.ie/woman-jailed-criminal-court-5392090-Mar2021/%3famp=1

on Thursday 25 March is in breach of the Code of Practice set out by the Press Council of Ireland.

The headline states:
“Woman jailed after being found with thousands of ‘depraved’ child abuse images”.
The article continues to refer to the perpetrator as a woman and uses the pronouns she and her throughout.
Not until the 20th paragraph does the journalist clarify that “she” is a “transgender woman”.

A transgender woman is biologically male and is not a woman. The headline and majority of the article therefore constitute “a significant inaccuracy, misleading statement or distorted report or picture” - Principle 1.2 of the Code.

Biological sex is highly relevant when reporting sexual or violent crimes because these are typical of male-pattern criminality, and statistically almost never perpetrated by female people.

When journalists refer to a male person carrying out a typically male act of sexual offending as if it were perpetrated by a female person, it distorts the wider ongoing conversation around male sexual offending which has wider consequences and is not in the public interest.

It is necessary, as per Principle 1.3 of the Code, that you publish a retraction and clarification promptly and with due prominence.

Yours etc.

miri1985 · 29/03/2021 22:44

The Mirror has a much more indepth article and according to them DeSouza is being kept in the Midlands prison which is males only.

archive.is/HaPHd#selection-1695.28-1695.43

"Once contacted by clients, she asked them if they had an “interest” in children.
When some of the punters told her they also liked children, the sicko lied that she “had access” to many of the kids featured in the images and videos.
She also sent images and videos - featuring children between the ages of two and sixteen - even when her customers said they had no interest in them."

WiseOwlOne · 29/03/2021 22:49

omg, buried in there right at the bottom of the article. It's not a woman.
I saw this article the other day and skim read the first few lines and thought omg, a woman, I can't read on.