Reddit “TransgenderTeens” - Aimee Chanellors partner is removed

[XXSex]

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I don’t have any words for my anger at how and why this was allowed to happen.

The people surrounding Aimee do seem to be far more problematic than Aimee.

Aimee is clearly a victim, and the main issue with Aimee is their inability to see the problems in the people they're surrounded with, and Aimee enabling them.

Aimee meanwhile is creating more and more victims. There are many victims who don’t continue the cycle. There comes a time when you can no longer feel sorry for the adult creating the next generation of victims.

Aimee meanwhile is creating more and more victims. There are many victims who don’t continue the cycle.

This. Someone I’m very close to was abused by a relative from the age of 8. It has affected her for life. But she is passionate about child protection, and lives her life around ensuring her children and now grandchildren are safe and happy.

@NecessaryScene1

The people surrounding Aimee do seem to be far more problematic than Aimee.

Aimee is clearly a victim, and the main issue with Aimee is their inability to see the problems in the people they're surrounded with, and Aimee enabling them.

Stop with the whole 'Be Kind' shit.

This person is dangerous because of the choices they've made and continue to make - and they're choices. They should take responsibility for their actions and be judged in the light of those actions.

@XXSex

Aimee meanwhile is creating more and more victims. There are many victims who don’t continue the cycle. There comes a time when you can no longer feel sorry for the adult creating the next generation of victims.

Yes.

Am I reading it correctly that the partner was removed because of a connection to Challenor? Not because they tweeted paedophilic fantasies to the world, then?

@NotBadConsidering

Am I reading it correctly that the partner was removed because of a connection to Challenor? Not because they tweeted paedophilic fantasies to the world, then?

I'd guess that if Reddit doesn't do basic vetting of people it hires, it presumably does less or none on mods... no idea how it works, do people just volunteer for those roles?

@NotBadConsidering

Am I reading it correctly that the partner was removed because of a connection to Challenor? Not because they tweeted paedophilic fantasies to the world, then?

Correct. They’re trying to frantically bury the bodies.

Much to criticise about safeguarding in the 70s and 80s, but I think at least people knew that they were protecting the egos of a dominant class.

Reddit are having to clean house. People have found the thread and are pulling on it, there will probably be more. I also do not buy the "we did not vet properly" excuse. AC's hiring was most likely nepotism given that two seconds of googling can find out quite a lot.
I believe Reddit are planning to become a publicly owned company soon, and they are probably terrified investors are going to run. I have no idea how deep the rot goes.

@NotBadConsidering

Am I reading it correctly that the partner was removed because of a connection to Challenor? Not because they tweeted paedophilic fantasies to the world, then?

That is not the same person. Aimee's husband tweeted the nonce fantasies, Katrina Swales is their poly lover

Aimee is an adult not a child and has had extraordinary amount of influence which has been a negative effect on women’s rights. They walk into roles that as a boring middle aged women I’d have no chance. They aren’t a victim

I'm certainly not meaning to minimise the danger Aimee poses, and certainly we need to stop "being kind" to them. "Being kind" is the entire problem. We need to be extremely firm to them for their own good and everyone else's.

I was more trying to make the point that this is not the time to stop pulling the thread.

They aren’t a victim

Don't swing too far the other way. This isn't an either/or. Reddit are guilty of ignoring the fact they're a danger because they're a victim. It would be similarly wrong to ignore the fact they're a victim because they're a danger.

They're both.

Aimee has been groomed but should have no access to children.

It's not an either/or

I also do not buy the "we did not vet properly"

No, this doesn’t ring true.

The problem isn’t just a lack of googling, it’s that, unless there are sizeable CV gaps, simple checking of references should have raised concerns given the nature of the job.

You then have to ask how they check other mods, and whether they just dismiss things that should raise red flags.

I think Dr Em's thread on Twitter, which has been posted elsewhere, tells us exactly what Aimee is.

You then have to ask how they check other mods, and whether they just dismiss things that should raise red flags.

If the top is rotten, it's entirely possible that they seek out red flag people to recruit

You then have to ask how they check other mods, and whether they just dismiss things that should raise red flags

Yes. It would appear being a mod on these groups is very subjective.

You then have to ask how they check other mods, and whether they just dismiss things that should raise red flags.

I think it's clear that in certain circles, being called out by "transphobes" is seen as a qualification. The "us" and "them" mentality is so rigid, that extreme accusations from "that" side prove you're "one of us".

This is kind of projected to what you see in reverse - wild accusations with no basis against people like Jesse Singal. They make those accusations knowing they're false, because he's not "one of us". Accusations of sexual deviancy are seen as just a power tool, never a real actual thing.

So if everyone interested in "safeguarding" is a "transphobe", and people even say things like "safeguarding is a TERF dogwhistle", then it's open season for all sorts.

@NecessaryScene1

They aren’t a victim

Don't swing too far the other way. This isn't an either/or. Reddit are guilty of ignoring the fact they're a danger because they're a victim. It would be similarly wrong to ignore the fact they're a victim because they're a danger.

They're both.

Being a victim of (extremely) poor parenting has to stop becoming an excuse at some point.

AC’s hostile actions towards women have had detrimental effects on numerous women. To say they are a victim too puts the focus on them rather than the many actual females victims of their actions and relegates the female victims as less important