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Male threatening officers within police. Who to complain to?

16 replies

Jessica60 · 23/03/2021 11:47

There are many incidents of aggressive, threatening behaviour by a senior rank male officer to female officers. It's just brushed under the carpet, then happens again and he gets moved to the department that deals with these complaints , which prevents other victims complaining.
Who can you complain to if he is then put in charge of the dept that deals with these complaints.
So many more examples of how women are bullied and are abusers are protected.
Is there anyone outside the police that assist with helping these victims?
Sorry I can not put much info here as I dont want to be identified but I would very much like your advice.

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MrsTophamHat · 23/03/2021 11:54

Isnt there an independent police complaints commission? Or would this not come under their remit?

Jessica60 · 23/03/2021 11:57

I didn't think it was their remit. It's usually external parties that go to them. I could enquiry but I don't want to be identified.

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NatalieShortman · 23/03/2021 11:59

Not an expert but I think it's the IOPC

www.policeconduct.gov.uk/

NatalieShortman · 23/03/2021 12:01

From the IOPC website

"Our Report Line for police officers/staff
Read more about our Report Line in our guides for police officers/staff.

Email(link sends e-mail) or phone 08458 770 061 (open from 9am to 5pm, or leave a voice mail after hours)"

policeconduct.gov.uk/who-we-are/contact-us

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2021 12:03

Citizens advice might be worth a virtual visit?

BadgertheBodger · 23/03/2021 12:16

I’d go up the ladder. If he’s part of professional standards department he will have a superior, and so on, right up to chief constable. I’d have my ducks in a row in terms of clear statements from victims abs as much evidence as you can gather, get the union involved and be prepared to push hard. Keep escalating it.

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2021 12:23

worksmart.org.uk/health-advice/illnesses-and-injuries/violence-and-bullying/violence/what-laws-protect-me-threats-and

'Your employer owes you a general duty of care to protect you from threats and violence at work'

under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.

Employers are also obliged to protect you from harassment,

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2021 12:25

Also Unison, though I am a bit Hmm about how useful unions are to women.

www.unison.org.uk/at-work/police-and-justice-staff/

PearPickingPorky · 23/03/2021 12:36

Everything feels completely stacked against women at the moment. This is yet another example.

AnneElliott · 23/03/2021 12:42

Have you raised a complaint or are you too scared to do so?

The PSD should be the first port if call but I understand if you don't want to be identified.

I believe you can also approach the monitoring officer In the PCCs office. It's normally the Chief Exec but sometimes a member of their team.

If you want to do it anonymously- you could always approach HMICFRS and they will take it into account during the force inspection.

AnneElliott · 23/03/2021 12:43

What does your Fed rep say?

Jessica60 · 23/03/2021 12:45

Thank you for all your advice.
Statements were already made against him by the other women, thats when he was promoted and put into that dept.
Another female colleague I worked with on his team resigned as she could not take it. No one asked her why she resigned. From my experience women who make complaints don't get anywhere in the police and are then called names and their new bosses become wary of them.
This is not the first incident of Male officers of rank bullying female officers within this force.
Another high rank Male officer made sexual and sexist comments to a few female officers and staff and guess what he was just moved depts. This officer also got caught stealing on a training course, they could not get rid of him as he was in the masons and other high ranking officers also in the masons supported him.
I really think taking it further causes a lot of stress which I am suffering from at the moment and it is pointless. They put women in these high ranks but it's the boys club that really run these forces.

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Jessica60 · 23/03/2021 12:45

Anne elliot he works in PSD. That's where they moved him to.

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ArabellaScott · 23/03/2021 12:54

I wonder if it would be worth getting in touch with this woman?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56427167

'Olivia Pinkney, chief constable of Hampshire Police and representing the National Police Chiefs' Council, told the programme: "When women have the courage to come forward to anyone, including the police, then they will be listened to, they will be heard, they will be supported.'

Jessica60 · 23/03/2021 13:07

Arabella Scott. Thank you. I have just read that article. I will try and contact her.
There are so many other incidents I have witnessed over the years regarding sexism and bullying of female officers.
For example getting the best actions (jobs) and lovely trips away to take statements if you agree to sleep with the DI. I declined.

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AnneElliott · 24/03/2021 22:10

They put him in PSD? That is a complete joke. I agree with the suggestion of contacting Olivia Pinkney- I have met her a couple of times and she seems really good.

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