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Triggernometry: Are Women Safe On Our Streets? With Emma Web & Ella Whelan

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SunsetBeetch · 21/03/2021 21:24

An interesting watch.

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EarthSight · 22/03/2021 21:37

@ShoppingWomble

Wish they'd get Julie Bindel on. Or Karen Ingala Smith.

Funny that they only seem to have women under 35 on... Can't think why....

Bindel would be a good choice.

However, they've had Meghan Murphy, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Abigail Shrier, Megyn Kelly and Posie Parker and more and they're all over 35, so don't know where you got that idea from that they only interview young women.

Erkrie · 22/03/2021 21:40

so I’m not cueing up Michalea Peterson or Nigel Farage anytime soon

I watched the Nigel Farage one. It was surprisingly interesting.

nauticant · 22/03/2021 21:46

I actually intend to watch that one Erkrie when I find a day when I have an hour and am feeling very relaxed. There aren't that many UK politicians who set themselves a single apparently impossible massive goal and after decades of campaigning finally prevailed. I don't like the result but the achievement is undeniable.

Sophoclesthefox · 22/03/2021 21:48

To be fair, ekrie, I’m torn! I haven’t deleted it from my feed because I feel like I should give it a whirl. He just pisses me off so much. But you’ve convinced me, I’ll go somewhere where it doesn’t matter if end up shouting “FUCK OFF NIGEL YOU BELLEND” and give it a go Grin

Erkrie · 22/03/2021 21:55

I know what you mean. But I did actually find his story interesting, and different to what I imagined him to be. If that makes sense. I was definitely in the hes a bellend camp. But I don't really feel so much like that anymore. It's a good watch anyway, whatever you take away from it afterwards.

SunsetBeetch · 23/03/2021 07:17

@TinyTroubleMaker

I wouldn't say they need more women. More of Douglas Murray in tight trousers would suffice... Grin
Oh behave... Grin
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ShoppingWomble · 23/03/2021 10:56

Suzanne Moore's article has better expressed some of what I feel about younger women laughing at "those silly feminists":

This trot through history is something of an answer to the “what did the Romans ever do for us?” question that is sometimes asked by younger women of older women. It is not a rebuke, it is rather a reminder of what can be done when you harness political will to the concerns of ordinary women.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4199944-Suzanne-Moore-young-women-should-learn-from-older-generations

I forget the quote but there's something about if men like your feminism then it's not really feminism. Obviously for the Triggernometry watchers any talk about women's rights needs a lot of mollifying and ideally should be presented by someone young and attractive.

But now I'm reacting angrily which doesn't help. I feel like men and women need a Truth and Reconciliation Committee where we can talk honestly about violence against women, but not many men would want to be there. Sounds too much like school assembly. This is why I like Jackson Katz's approach - it's about male leadership and recognising when men are bystanders, condoning violence by not acting even if they aren't violent themselves.

Now wondering if it's racist to appropriate the problems in South Africa for women's problems? It affects all women and all men in the world so I think not. I recognise this started with horror and compassion at the fate of a young white woman which has not always been shown towards women victims of other backgrounds. Trevor Noah's book was really interesting on race and violence in SA but I need to seek out some female stories from there.

I'll shut up now!

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