Trans train 3?

[AnyOldPrion]

Just came across this on Twitter. Does anyone know if the rest of the program is available anywhere please?

genderchallenge.no/onewebmedia/fortsattningen%20english%20PART%201.mp4

Oh thanks for this. No sorry I don't know where the second half is. Very interesting though.

Are you sure there is a "second half" (yet?). Here's my link:

I don't think this was supposed to be a full episode like the first 2. The on-screen Swedish title is "Trans Train - continued".

Handy reference - I posted a load of video links including these on this thread.

Thank you. For some reason, the link I found only had half of the fourteen minute update. Not sure why, as the website has the whole thing. Interesting that Aleksa Lundberg also admits to wondering about a possible alternative life as a gay man.

Anyway, my link has led me to this Scandinavian Gender Challenge website, which I will now explore.

genderchallenge.no/home-1/

Sorry, Gender Identity Challenge.

Holy moly, Any. Some astounding work done in that website gathering evidence and examining the lack thereof.

'...the largest study of its kind with complete registered patient health data, not survey, not interviews, not self-report, and it failed to find any mental health benefit of hormones or gender affirming surgery.'

Some astounding work done in that website gathering evidence and examining the lack thereof.

Yes. I genuinely believe that this branch of medicine will be seen in future as one of the great tragedies that periodically occur. The evidence doesn’t appear to be there to back up such a very invasive protocol.

Any apparent short term improvement might well relate to the placebo effect. Also when your life is empty or missing something, then having treatment in stages, each supposedly the next “step in a journey” which is how transition is presented, gives a feeling of progress and something to hope for. The important results that have never really been consistently examined are the very long term experiences.

It's the mismatch between the pretty serious side effects and risks, and the apparently unverified benefits that puzzles me. Any treatment with such serious effects would surely only be embarked on or recommended when there were very, very clear benefits...or very very clear risks to not doing anything.

Thanks for posting.

It's the mismatch between the pretty serious side effects and risks, and the apparently unverified benefits that puzzles me. Any treatment with such serious effects would surely only be embarked on or recommended when there were very, very clear benefits...or very very clear risks to not doing anything.

It seems like doctors are abusing the protocols for "experimental treatments" to administer these treatments that wouldn't sustain the weight of scrutiny of a proper trial or even get ethics board approval for a trial.

Is there any way that we could campaign to close what seems to be a medical ethics loophole? Very handwavey question I know, this is not my field and I have no idea how it's regulated.

i think this is the same documentary in full -

Don't think the link worked last time.

They're number 1 and 2 I think, but thank you Mullet, useful to have on the thread!

They include bits about the Tavistock iirc, so I wonder if part 3 includes Keira Bell?