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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lib Dems action - digging required

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Xanthangum · 19/03/2021 19:43

Can't link, obviously, but there is a new gardening project trying to bring some common sense to the LDs:

In late 2018, Natalie wore a T-shirt saying "Woman: Adult Human Female" in a Lib Dem meeting. There followed an investigation and in November 2019 Natalie was "barred from holding or standing for election to any party office for 10 years" and "barred from holding or seeking to be elected to any public office on behalf of the party for a period of 10 years" because she had "disseminat(ed) transphobic material over a prolonged time". For allegedly "speaking to a journalist", (an alleged breach of confidentiality) she received a reprimand. Natalie has appealed these findings and denies being transphobic, instead has simply raised questions around how to find the right balance between gender based rights and sex based rights. That appeal is still pending.

Natalie seeks to instruct lawyers to explore whether there have been breaches of the internal procedures of the Liberal Democrats and whether there have been breaches of the Equality Act 2010 against her (and potentially other women in the party).

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Triphazards · 19/03/2021 19:46

She doesn't need money. She just needs new friends/another party.

Manderleyagain · 19/03/2021 19:47

Saw this. I will chip in. I hope she can get some good advice on whether there is any legal avenue to persue. I really want political parties to be forced to think about whether their internal policies & actions on this issue discriminate against members in ways they shouldn't.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 19/03/2021 19:50

Good luck, but I think the LibDems are a hopeless case. They fall for any fad and wouldn’t recognise a genuine principle if they tripped over one.

Skyliner001 · 19/03/2021 19:51

Glad to hear she was barred. Thanks for sharing 😊🌈

Xanthangum · 19/03/2021 20:07

That's a bit weird @Skyliner001? Explain for me please?

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WarriorN · 19/03/2021 20:07

I can Chip in.

Also there's this new grassroots group

liberalvoiceforwomen.org/

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/03/2021 20:28

Saw this. I will chip in. I hope she can get some good advice on whether there is any legal avenue to persue. I really want political parties to be forced to think about whether their internal policies & actions on this issue discriminate against members in ways they shouldn't.

I agree. I think you should be able to campaign for women's legal sex based rights to be retained, and preventing a marginalised group from campaigning for their rights, or sanctioning them for this, may breach the EA 2010.

Xanthangum · 20/03/2021 07:32

preventing a marginalised group from campaigning for their rights, or sanctioning them for this, may breach the EA 2010.

Don't political parties employ lawyers to warn them about this sort of thing. Hypothetically if conference votes for a policy that in fact breaks the law, the party would be mad to pursue it, no?

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JustSpeculation · 20/03/2021 08:48

[quote WarriorN]I can Chip in.

Also there's this new grassroots group

liberalvoiceforwomen.org/[/quote]
Thanks for this link. It's been productive.

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