Rosa (UK Fund for women) will manage the distribution of money from Reclaim These Streets fundraiser

[stumbledin]

Just thought I would make this (yet another) thread about RTS because of the issue over whether money donated was done so under a misapprehension of how it would be distributed.

Not sure that this clears this up, but Rosa does have experience of working with a range of women's groups and has an application process in place.

I suspect it will got to fairly mainstream "women's rights" groups. And the issue of women only versus trans inclusive will just not be mentioned.

rosauk.org/2021/03/19/rosa-and-reclaim-these-streets-announcement/

This is an example of some of the groups that Roas have previously given money to rosauk.org/2020/08/03/rosa-announces-round-three-grantees-covid-19-response-fund-small-grants/

They were also given part of the Tampon Tax money to distribute rosauk.org/2021/02/01/rosa-and-smallwood-trust-launch-women-thrive-fund/

I know the Rosa charity, they do good work.

Are they managing all the money then?

Ignore that question, it looks like they are, brilliant. It's a huge relief that donations made in good faith will actually go to help women and girls.

(You can tell from the language - women and girls means just that, all women means, well, we know what it means.)

That's quite a result given the treatment of women asking questions about the money on the RTS twitter.

Good result.

Sounds promising. As long as they don't actually rule out groups that centre women!

Someone posted a page on twitter from them where year the tw (not tm) word is indeed mentioned. Someone will need to verify this... not surprised.

I think that is a good idea and the list of organisations that they have previously supported with grants is exactly the sort of place you would hope it would go to. Domestic abuse, vulnerable mums period poverty. I am pleased because these sorts of organisations are so desperate for money and very small charities too.

This is good news. Thank you, OP.

I am hoping it will be better than what I was beginning to suspect about the organising group. Just wasn't sure if they were very niave or were trying to conceal dubious links! They kept shutting down an attempt to clarify.

Will wait to see the criteria they draw up for this money, as I dont know whether they have to somehow adhere to what was said on the fundraising page.

And without being too mean, hope they dont take too much for admin costs!

I wonder if in fact justgiving put this forward as a solution rather than get involved in sorting out whether money had been collected under false pretenses.

Not doing a happy dance just yet. I don’t trust anyone unless I see with my own eyes that they haven’t ‘expanded their remit’ as it were. And the bad taste left by the initial a-storm is still there.

I’m a very cynical person. I’m willing to be pleasantly surprised though.

Had a trawl through the website and one org they give funding to mentions trans men. I have only skim read so not a thorough read but I see no obvious signs that the funding would be given to men, though several rape crisis centres are mentioned, others consistently say women, young women or women and girls, not 'all women'.

I suppose the only way is to check is to get this confirmed by email which is a depressing thing in itself.

I think the thing to remember is it is never Rosa's money. They are fund administrators. They decide who gets money dependent on the criteria of the funder. eg there was money for BME women's groups.

So this is why it will be interesting to see what they say is the RTS criteria. Not forgetting that initially it said for women's groups and then someone on twitter said are you trans inclusive and they said yes. But in the meantime donations had been made on the basis of the original status.

So the fact that groups that include trans women have got money syas much more about funders. I suspect all lottery money is now trans inclusive - and that really is millions.

This is being shared on facebook. It is trying to give an over view of how the fundraising by RTS became problematic.

I think it is much too king to RTS but has points in it that others thinking out fundraising online might want to consider.

abarbararich.medium.com/vigils-and-vigilance-3941f6da6265

Oh.

twitter.com/rosaforwomen/status/1180763880064204800?s=21

Didn’t I tell you my friends (my other name is senna the sooth sayer)?

Frankly, I'd be worried about supporting anything that's given the green light by mimmymum

@OhHolyJesus

Oh.

twitter.com/rosaforwomen/status/1180763880064204800?s=21

Oh ffs.

A quick way to find if they think women includes males is to do an advanced Google search, e.g. use the term

trans site:rosauk.org

And - yes they do think so. Example below -

How will you prioritise grants?
The fund particularly welcomes proposals from women’s organisations that:
• Address the critical needs of women and girls that miss out the most, including: marginalised populations, BME women, lesbian, bisexual or transgender women and girls, women and girls with disabilities, older women, homeless women, survivors of gender violence, women in prison and exoffenders, and other underserved and disadvantaged groups of women

Same old, same old. Captured.

AS sais up thread, it depends which funds they are distributing and the criteria of the actual fund holders.

So according to the Guardian RTS have said (surprise, suprise):

“We wanted to focus on access to legal support, we want to be trans-inclusive and we are very aware that grassroots organisations for women of colour often get overlooked in funding decisions. So that was very much our brief of where the money should go” ie it is their brief about their money.

(Interestingly in the same article it says: "Many critics focused on the group’s trans-inclusive approach, Klingler said. Private Eye ran a critical report about Reclaim These Streets’ objectives that the group says was published without them being given a chance to comment." I wonder what the article said, as obviously the Guardian wouldn't point out that initially the fundraiser said "women's groups".)

So three women are being killed a week and they still put tw in front of actual women in their statement.

In my mind transgender women and girls means female humans who are transgender. I know that Rosa probably means male humans, but it really doesn’t read that way to me.

@WarriorN

So three women are being killed a week and they still put tw in front of actual women in their statement.

It's incredible isn't it?

Always. It’s become the standard these days.

Do you think these groups are scared of the TRAs?

So they verbally appease?

I'd like to see the eventual money breakdown re which funds went where.

@PaleBlueMoonlight

In my mind transgender women and girls means female humans who are transgender. I know that Rosa probably means male humans, but it really doesn’t read that way to me.

You're not alone. That's how CEDAW uses it, too. And one of the reasons why I don't use TW as a term when referring to male transgender people.