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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Children's Hospital, LA

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MaudTheInvincible · 19/03/2021 12:04

Children's Hospital LA have liked a tweet which states they will give puberty blockers to children aged 8, and mastectomies to children aged 13. This makes the Tavi look positively tardy!

My dc are aged between 8 and 13. I find this so upsetting. At 8 they were very much still daft as brushes, with very little idea of longterm consequences or future regret. How, how can children of this age give meaningful consent to this?

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ArabellaScott · 19/03/2021 12:06

Is that LA as in Los Angeles?

My daughter told me she's an anteater yesterday. But she is just 7.

Presumably in six months time she'll have developed a far more sophisticated understanding of gender, gender identity, fertility, medical consent, and risk assessment.

MaudTheInvincible · 19/03/2021 12:07

Sorry link to tweet twitter.com/JLCederblom/status/1372651002546024452?s=20

Children's Hospital, LA
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Igmum · 19/03/2021 12:10

Horrific. How can anyone support the butchery and forced sterilisation of children?

MaudTheInvincible · 19/03/2021 12:13

I can't comprehend it Arabella. I mean, no one has ever been able to come here and adequately explain what gender identity is, and we're grown ups with good understanding of many different concepts and processes.

No one has ever come and explained how childhood transition of any type, even social, is beneficial to girls at all.

Sad
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MattDamon · 19/03/2021 12:14

The only saving grace is that American law firms are probably already prepping for the future class action lawsuits.

HermitsLife · 19/03/2021 12:22

I've got an 8yo family member who's just started question the existence of Father Christmas, this is bonkers

MaudTheInvincible · 19/03/2021 12:49

Yes, it truly is bonkers. Where are these children even getting these ideas from? It has to be the adults they're exposed to. Has to be.

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WarOnWomen · 19/03/2021 12:57

@MaudTheInvincible

Yes, it truly is bonkers. Where are these children even getting these ideas from? It has to be the adults they're exposed to. Has to be.

Adults they are exposed to. Schools as well. Social media too as many children have access to devices and very little supervision on what is being accessed.

It's devastating how the adults around these children are failing to be the grownups, are failing in their safeguarding.

MaudTheInvincible · 19/03/2021 13:07

Yes, they're being utterly failed.

I saw something recently about a thread on Joanna Olsen-Kennedy's practises getting deleted, but can't remember where now.

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HoldontoOneMoreDay · 19/03/2021 13:12

I know a lot of women on FWR feel that the TRA agenda is a trojan horse for men's rights. While I totally understand that view, I personally think it is all about big pharma. Who benefits from children being put on lifelong medicalisation paths? This is an advert for pharma, pure and simple.

Am far from a big pharma conspiracy theorist by the way.

Deliriumoftheendless · 19/03/2021 13:18

Mine is 7 and I won’t let her cross a busy road by herself despite the fact you can actually see the risk approaching.

JanewaysBun · 19/03/2021 13:19

Gosh.
My niece flip flops between wanting to keep her hair long and getting a bob every day. Luckily hair grows back.

As a tween your e learning more about the wider world and thinking where your place might be in it.

MaudTheInvincible · 19/03/2021 13:27

I think your suspicions are well founded, HoldontoOneMoreDay. US big pharma (Stryker/ Arcus) does seem to be linked to lots of financial contributions to getting lupron type drugs into young people, and also into financing the whoever's in the White House. Over here, Ferring Pharmaceuticals have made substantial donations to the Lib Dems archive.is/vtFTU

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GroggyLegs · 19/03/2021 13:31

I agree HoldontoOneMoreDay. A lifetime if procedures and medication? They must be rubbing their cloven hooves together.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 19/03/2021 13:32

My DD is 8. She has been teased over having a dinosaur lunch box... As dinosaurs are for boys apparently

This is what gender means to young children... Toys, books, favourite animals, colours...

Datun · 19/03/2021 13:39

@HoldontoOneMoreDay

I know a lot of women on FWR feel that the TRA agenda is a trojan horse for men's rights. While I totally understand that view, I personally think it is all about big pharma. Who benefits from children being put on lifelong medicalisation paths? This is an advert for pharma, pure and simple.

Am far from a big pharma conspiracy theorist by the way.

I think it's both.

But the pharma angle also explains why surgery and treatment hasn't gained as much traction here.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 19/03/2021 13:50

give puberty blockers to children aged 8, and mastectomies to children aged 13

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I feel this stamens needs to be seen again.

Anyone who is ok with this should not be anywhere near a child.

highame · 19/03/2021 16:49

The medical companies are insisting on signatures on contracts so that people wont be able to claim if they change their minds or if things go wrong. Biden thinks it's great, so it must be

MonkeyNotOrgangrinder · 19/03/2021 17:25

My dc was unsure whether Alvin and the chipmunks were real at that age. He was actually desperate for them to be real so he could be friends with them. If I had told him they were, he would definitely have believed me.
I think that those who talk about trans kids knowing who they are probably don't understand children very well

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