Jessica Ann Pin

[Okbussitout]

I don't know if people have heard of her work? But she campaigns for better knowledge of female anatomy. This is after she had cosmetic surgery on her vulva and unwanted surgery (mutilation) on clitoris when she was a teen. The surgery really wasn't needed she was made to feel her genitals were not nice to look at by the surgeons etc and has resulted in many problems.

She campaigns for better understanding of female anatomy as very little was taught in medical school and in medical text books. She's done really well to get it into some major medical text books.

I watch her videos on tiktok and although I wouldn't say I'm gender critical. The attacks she is facing from TRAs does really feed into the things people say here about them and misogy. She also talks about violent threats from TRAs.

So just telling people about her amazing work. But also really struggling not to see silencing of women here and its just awful.

Thank you for sharing that OP, I'd not come across her. Women face a double whammy here: 1) our bodies are not adequately understood by medical science, which is male-centric, and this is compounded by 2) the fact that we're not allowed to talk about our own bodies anymore. Whatever you think of trans women, however much you feel you want to be inclusive and sympathetic towards their concerns, this is quite simply none of their business. "It's not all about you!"

How do you mean shed in your face @vivariumvivariumsvivaria I've found her really calm and professional almost in her approach.

I actually learned some interesting things about the difference between female genital anatomy and post op trans female anatomy. It's not something have spent any time thinking about surprisingly enough! But when she talked about the differences and differences in appearance that seems to be a significant trigger for hate.

The way things are done by surgeons seems to also be guided by poor understanding of female anatomy. But what is done does mean that the changes surgeons make do not mean nerve endings etc are in the same place for example. So it isn't like for like. It may appear like vulva/vagina etc but doesn't function in the same way.

It seems she's now stuck in a place of denying facts or being transphobic.

Just had a look at her Tik Tok and she's getting a lot of support.

She perfectly represents the reality behind TWAW. The vast, vast majority of people who say TWAW know that it's nonsense to suggest they are also female or that they have female anatomy. What they are really saying is "TWATW and TW are valid so we'll let them use the word even if it's not an accurate descriptor." I know that's how a lot of people who are trans understand it and that it's only the loudest voices who are disagreeing.

If we could all agree TWATW it would be a hell of a lot simpler.

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Just had a look at her Tik Tok and she's getting a lot of support.

Yeah she is. But that support is a result of the attacks she has been receiving.

Okbussitout I meant that she's unapologetic, unafraid and stands up to the medics who have dismissed her. She's annoyed many of them.

She's got great strength of character and I don't doubt for a minute that she'll succeed in getting clitoral anatomy into the books.

It wasn't meant to be a bad thing.

Reading her tweets is desperately frustrating it’s all a bit “I’m not like the other girls”.

@PegasusReturns

Reading her tweets is desperately frustrating it’s all a bit “I’m not like the other girls”.

What do you mean?

Her position is clearly “I’m not transphobic” whilst failing to acknowledge that transphobe is a slur levelled at anyone who does not capitulate to the wildest demands of the TRAs.

She is trying to set herself apart from the masses of women who feel exactly the same as her and frankly I’m finding her a bit whiney: “but I don’t do/say/think that”.

I also finding the claims of being attacked in equal measures by GC women and TRAs disingenuous. None have attacked her on shown the “hostility” she claims. Her cognitive dissonance is off the scale.

I had someone on Twitter DM me today asking if I thought JP was “on a wind up”.

I think she's been confronted with a lot of information over a very short timeframe.

I hadn't heard of her before. Her work is clearly very important. Unfortunately she lost me almost instantly. I can't find it now, but she was griping about abuse from both sides. Someone pointed out that TRAs will threaten rape with barbed wire while GC feminists just unfollow. She replied that the unfollow is worse behaviour because it reduces the visibility of her work.

Yes. She isn’t making much sense. She is attempting to fence sit and staying ‘nice’.

I thought it quite ludicrous to state she wanted women to follow her yet is happy for the word woman to mean something else. She is not happy for clitoris to mean something else, but woman? She asks, what harm is there allowing it to change?

It looks like some "gc" feminists have been very short with her, which I actually don't think helps.

I also think it's much harder in the us to separate the GC side from alt right.

I've had a perfectly wonderful chat with a woman in the us, she loves testosterone Rex and other GC books, but still couldn't let go of the be kind narrative. Everything else about her is "GC feminist ".

I’ve been engaging with her posts because her questions keep popping up on my TL but she doesn’t reply that much - understandably as she is getting a huge amount of engagement at the moment. It’s like watching a ski jumper in really, really, really slow motion, tumbling through the air and right now we can’t tell if she’ll land safely or completely stack it! She’s grasping at wanting to keep saying TWAW because it hurts some people’s feelings if we don’t agree, but then admonishing women for rejecting c*s “it’s just a fucking word, what happened to stick and stones” and now she thinks GC feminists are worse than TRAs because she’s lost 150 follows in a day, whilst TRAs tell her to eat glass 🤷🏻‍♀️, and she doesn’t personally
mind being abused but Twitter follows are important to her work. She doesn’t agree she’s being disrespectful by insisting on using an offensive and inaccurate term about women that many reject. It’s a blind spot many share - any other group says “that word offends us, please don’t use it” and everyone jumps to. Women - not so much. Plus ça change.

I think as someone above said, she’s getting a lot of information quickly, and is processing publicly. Most of us did this over time and in private, anonymously. She knows she’s a fair and kind person and doesn’t want to offend but obviously offending women is fine & the silly women’s fault for being offended (that’s not just her, that’s the patriarchy speaking and none of us are immune to the ingrained internalised misogyny pressed into us since before we were born). And - not meaning any disrespect here - I don’t know what her professional background or educational level is, she is a survivor of medical negligence campaigner with researched & lived expertise in a very specific area. It is a lot to take in and process logically whilst trying to maintain capitulation to a certain illogical viewpoint. Expectations are incredibly high on her because of the work she does, and it is really frustrating for her to be so keenly defending her blind spots.

Cwenthryth

I think you’ve summed it up very nicely.

Meanwhile in other news.....this morning Hibo Wardere has tweeted fearlessly (I think she’s been dragged into it somewhat): “Hear me please. I am not a Cis ,or whatever you want to lable women. We are women . Its truly simple . Yet some people can't grasp that reality .it's not our problem. I repeat again . We Are Women”

And now I replied and Hibo retweeted me I’m going to have to put Twitter down for a bit aren’t I 🤦🏻‍♀️

hibo is lovely isn't she! I friended her on fb not expecting a response but she did!

Blimey. I think I'd swoon if she retweeted me or friended me on FB. Hibo once liked one of my tweets and I had to sit down and fan myself!

Jessica Ann seems to have gone on the offensive criticising women for being afraid of sexual assault

I honestly think it's best to step away from her and let her process. Really good point about how we got to work through all this anonymously on MN, lurking or participating on threads, in our own time. She is clearly reading around the subject. If there are no GC feminists trying to hasten her along at a faster pace than she wants to go at, then she won't lash out at women.

The realisations about exactly how much feminism is still needed in the west have been incredibly painful. I'm glad I wasn't on twitter at the time, under my real name.

Oh I’ve definitely not been engaging, I agree better to give her space to process this. Just disappointed to see her victim blame other women when they haven’t been the people verbally attacking and threatening her