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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Is someone pulling all our strings?

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Outoftheshadow · 13/03/2021 20:14

It seems like there’s battles raging all over the place:
Attacks of free speech, no platforming, Twitter bans, Amazon refusing to sell books on body dysmorphia, attacks on democracy, Brexit, Scexit, denial of sex, butchering children, men believing they are woman, young girls believing they are boys, trans women are woman, COVID, misinformation, dwindling independent news outlets. rise in porn culture and I’m sure the list goes on.

The only sad constants are continued male dominance over woman, racism and religious conflicts.

It feels like we’re part of a war but we’re all so focused on the battle, we dont know who the real enemy is.

As Sun Tzu said over 2000 years ago ‘all warfare is based on deception’ (paraphrased) and he should know, he wrote the book on it.

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McDuffy · 13/03/2021 20:17

I asked a well-known campaigner about this as I was musing about how much time, effort and money goes into maintaining the status quo, and how much better we could direct those resources. She thought it was intentional but I need to dig further 🧐

SabrinaMorningstar · 13/03/2021 20:23

I'm not sure what you mean? Is there a big conspiracy going on? I don't think so.
I think men are determined to maintain the patriarchy at any cost. We're experiencing the pushback against women's right and MeToo. We're also reaping what happens when society moves online and the MRAs and incels find themselves in a position of power. Society moved into their lair and they know best how to game the system from setting reporting standards on twitter to manipulating trending algorithms.
Added to that, is the fact the government communication departments are following the strategy of creating lots of little fires and misinformation with the aim of stopping people from mobilising and keeping them divided. If the public are fighting each other, there's not any class analysis to challenge the establishment and the conglomerates.
So yy men and people with money and power, are fighting to maintain their position. 'Twas ever thus.

AffronttoGender · 13/03/2021 23:10
tellmetologoffIamaMNaddict · 13/03/2021 23:18

Recommend this podcast:
podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/part-one-mark-zuckerberg-worst-person-21st-century/id1373812661?i=1000427694169

There are five altogether on MZ. The later ones are titled something like "MZ should be convicted for crimes against humanity"

I think Zuckerberg bears a huge responsibility for much of the division in the world. Although governments also bear responsibility for not stopping him

Imnobody4 · 13/03/2021 23:20

That's a spooky video.

tellmetologoffIamaMNaddict · 13/03/2021 23:21

So for me Zuckerberg is an excellent place to start if we are looking for an enemy. We can then move onto some of the other soulless twats in Silicon Valley and their enablers :-)

TwistedEyeOfHorus · 13/03/2021 23:50

castbox.fm/vb/360518237
It should be a link to Brendan O Neill talking to Joel Kotkin about the new feudalism: he relates our current situation to mediaeval times, but we are the serfs while the tech giants and celebs with cash are the aristocracy. It was an interesting listen, and ties in with a lot of Jennifer Bilek's world view.

Are we all puppets to our Overlords?

GeidiPrimes · 14/03/2021 00:13

I wonder the same - sometimes it all seems like a big pantomime or bad reality TV. Particular bugbear atm is for this expectation for women mutilate their faces beyond recognition surgical. It seems to have tipped past the point of it enhancing features into reducing women into a draggy caricature. Identikit pumped top lips and cheek implants. There must be some dysmorphia at play.

Has anyone seen Hypernormalisation, a doc by Adam Curtis? It shows how much we're manipulated by governments and media - we're fed a narrative of their choosing. Made a few years ago, but all ties in with what's happening now. It really blew my mind!

GeidiPrimes · 14/03/2021 00:14

*recognition surgically

BelleHathor · 14/03/2021 00:15

[quote AffronttoGender][/quote]
Funnily enough was watching an interview yesterday with one of his students Dennis Prager who has been sounding the alarm about the infiltration of schools for 20 years plus. Link: rumble.com/vel93v-prager-bolsheviks-took-over-our-universities-when-they-took-out-god.html

30PercentRecycled · 14/03/2021 00:20

It would be comforting to think that a handful of villains are causing this.

I believe the reality is many millions of people are being sexist because that's their normal. Patriarchy runs deep.

Outoftheshadow · 14/03/2021 06:03

Actually i think that it’s more sinister., we live is a digital world with either every click, like, tweet, search, , purchase, piece of data stored in vast underground data centres - people like the Israel historian Yuvall Noah Harari warn about the danger we will face due to tech. Whilst I don’t think there’s there a bunch of people with a secret agreement to carve out power, I’m not too sure if those same people, who own all that data and have built programme so it learns , have built into the machine their own biases. Theres too much data for any human brain to process, they’re most likely not even pushing the buttons merely analysing and interpreting the data. Given how it often comes as a shock to our politicians what the actual feelings of their electorate when they meet them in the real world, it begs the question ‘Are we already being controlled by computer’?

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Outoftheshadow · 14/03/2021 06:17

Sorry piss poorly written argument, but hopefully you’ll get the drift

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Hibari · 14/03/2021 06:19

Probably. There's definitely an element on this site that make me think you've been infiltrated. I say this having seen several people defending everything from COVID denial to far right pundits to the Heritage Foundation in my brief time here.

...and seeing that, I can't help but think back to the stuff from a while back about American far-right christian groups funding some anti-trans people with hope of driving a wedge between or otherwise destabilizing both the LGBT community and feminist groups...so it wouldn't shock me if they've continued with that and expanded upon it.

Hibari · 14/03/2021 06:22

...and going back to the mention of Zuckerberg. It's no secret that he had a bunch of meetings with Conservative politicians in America during Trump's time in power.

Outoftheshadow · 14/03/2021 06:31

I think the likes of Zuckerberg and others are acting more like those complacent parents, who allow their kids to run riot and ruin it for everyone else. They’re happy as they’re doing quite nicely from the shit show, so why bother reprimanding their kids!

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Hibari · 14/03/2021 06:40

Getting tax breaks out of for the past few years probably helped them turn a blind eye.

Outoftheshadow · 14/03/2021 06:44

For those who are parents, we’ve also seen how sometimes other some kids get emboldened by the actions of the playground bully and join in. Rather like those key board warriors, whose interaction is with a digital accomplice, with content that is determine by algorithm, which in turn justifies their own biases and gives them ‘strength’ to move from online to offline.

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Diaryofamadwoman · 14/03/2021 06:51

It's the new propaganda. Make everyone question their most fundamental assumptions about the world, and there's no way of knowing what's true or false, right or wrong, up or down anymore. This ensures we have no agency and remain passive.

WarriorN · 14/03/2021 06:54

It definitely happens at a lower level. I've been wondering if this week / Last night for Sarah has been stoked by anti police and anti lockdown sentiment.

Although I've remembered her and went for a walk and watched footage I found it striking that this much feeling has been unleashed when so many women get murdered each year, also walking home.

Lockdown, IWD and a police man may have been the trigger; at the same time this is unusual.

AnyOldPrion · 14/03/2021 07:47

@WarriorN

It definitely happens at a lower level. I've been wondering if this week / Last night for Sarah has been stoked by anti police and anti lockdown sentiment.

Although I've remembered her and went for a walk and watched footage I found it striking that this much feeling has been unleashed when so many women get murdered each year, also walking home.

Lockdown, IWD and a police man may have been the trigger; at the same time this is unusual.

And now it seems the woman arrested was an actor, who during her “interview” made a statement that asserted a man was guilty of murder pre-trial. Presumably this might prejudice the case. In addition she made it overly clear she was protesting and not attending a vigil.

This whole thing stinks.

Is someone pulling all our strings?
Outoftheshadow · 14/03/2021 07:51

Propaganda is nothing new, it’s the speed it now spreads that is difficult to comprehend and we haven’t evolved to able to deal with it.

The parents of the ‘Intelligence’ that sends the message probably have little or no control over it now.

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thinkingaboutLangCleg · 14/03/2021 08:21

American far-right christian groups funding some anti-trans people with hope of driving a wedge between or otherwise destabilizing both the LGBT community and feminist groups

Why would women need strange religious backers to make us defend single-sex spaces and oppose medical experimentation on children? Why do you consider supporting women’s and children’s rights is ‘anti-trans’? I would defend these rights against whoever was undermining them.

Outoftheshadow · 14/03/2021 08:34

Boudicca is often portrayed as the champion of women’s rights across the ages - yes she ultimately failed, but I’m sure we can learn much from history to ensure that when we lead the next charge the outcome will go in our favour.

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WarriorN · 14/03/2021 08:41

Thanks Any. I think counterfire have deleted the tweet?

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