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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

2FM (Irish radio station) porn discussion

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barfotoliv · 13/03/2021 13:41

I was listening to this station in the car this morning; I normally prefer Today FM but chop and change if there's a song I don't like. Switched to 2FM, where a discussion had just started about porn between the presenter and some sort of expert - I didn't catch what her actual qualifications or role was.

Anyway, the discussion started with lots of positive affirmation about the benefits of porn, particularly for LBGTQ people. No surprise the focus was on the T though; how powerful and affirming it is to see bodies like your own in porn, especially nowadays when there are so many terrible, awful terfs around who want to deny Trans people's existence (that's what they actually said).

The discussion then moved on a bit, to what you should do if you were uncomfortable with the type of porn your partner was viewing. What if it was something that made you uneasy, like violent porn? Well, apparently it's fine not to like everything in porn, you don't have to, but it if you're having a strong reaction to something like that that your partner may be viewing, maybe you should explore why you are so resistant to it.

And how do you have these conversations with your partner about concerns about the kind of porn they're using, what if you've discovered they're watching something that horrifies you? Well, maybe broach it when you are out for a walk, so it's no as awkward, but it's important not to be confrontational or accusatory about it. Why not start with a more neutral "Can we talk about...?". I turned off at that point.

I'm well used to the incessant wokery of the Irish media, but this discussion just filled me with so much sadness. It was on at about 9.45am this morning. The casual and offhand slurring of GC women as "terrible, awful terfs". The subtle, insidious urging of women to drop their boundaries. The thorough normalising of porn, even porn described as violent, or horrifying to the partner.
I just despair.

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NChat · 13/03/2021 13:56

but it if you're having a strong reaction to something like that that your partner may be viewing, maybe you should explore why you are so resistant to it.

This reminds me of the stuff Sarah Edmondson said about the Nxivm cult teachings. Strong reaction=your problem to 'solve'.

notyourhandmaid · 13/03/2021 14:00

2fm are doing this? Right after a presenter left due to allegations about dodgy behaviour?

Right so.

notyourhandmaid · 13/03/2021 14:02

"Well, apparently it's fine not to like everything in porn, you don't have to, but it if you're having a strong reaction to something like that that your partner may be viewing, maybe you should explore why you are so resistant to it."

I guess it'd be... the extreme violence? The degradation and exploitation of women? Are these 'acceptable' reasons or should I go away and 'educate myself' because what I'm doing here is 'kink-shaming' the poor men? Angry

saltedcaramelchocolate · 13/03/2021 14:03

That's awful. I haven't listened to 2fm in years. It sounds like I am not missing much. I think they are struggling to remain relevant. My teenage and college age DC"s would never listen to it either.

saltedcaramelchocolate · 13/03/2021 14:04

@notyourhandmaid

2fm are doing this? Right after a presenter left due to allegations about dodgy behaviour?

Right so.

That was my first thought too.
HeyGirlHeyBoy · 13/03/2021 14:04

Who left? Haven't listened to 2FM in so long.

barfotoliv · 13/03/2021 14:10

Eoghan McDermot left suddenly after it emerged he'd groomed and assaulted a 16 year old girl a number of years ago. No dots connecting though for anyone.

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Barmbraic · 13/03/2021 14:19

Was ir the Dave Fanning show? (I'm guessing going by the schedule) I thought Dave was a bit more sensible than that to have such a discussion after McDermott's departure.

HeyGirlHeyBoy · 13/03/2021 14:19

Oh god wrt EMD

barfotoliv · 13/03/2021 14:48

No @Barmbraic it wasn't Dave Fanning. It was a female presenter, didn't catch her name. It was on at about 9.45am this morning.

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barfotoliv · 13/03/2021 14:51

I think it may have been Louise McSharry.

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Barmbraic · 13/03/2021 14:51

Ah, that explains a lot.

Barmbraic · 13/03/2021 14:51

Ah. That explains it so.

Tibtom · 13/03/2021 15:01

but it if you're having a strong reaction to something like that that your partner may be viewing, maybe you should explore why you are so resistant to it

So if you find your partner watching child pornography (child abuse), rather than phone the police you should consider why you are so resistant to it? Shock

MadamBatty · 13/03/2021 16:55

Complain, RTE should not as the national broadcaster be promoting porn. Particularly early on a Saturday morning.

Deadringer · 13/03/2021 17:34

One of the problems with being against porn is that people just assume that you are a prude, if you are a women you don't understand men's needs, if you are young you are niave, or if you are a bit older, it's assumed that you are jealous because your looks are going or you are a bit clueless about sex. So, especially if you are female, anything you say is pretty much discounted.

FionaMacCool · 13/03/2021 18:38

Oh, another instance of Irish media being so open minded that their brains have fallen out.
Oh for a bit of learned Marian Finucane.

Carriemac · 14/03/2021 12:56

Make a complaint

ForeverFaithless · 14/03/2021 14:39

Louise is full on super woke but even this is low, glad I missed it.

Whenever I have listened to Dave Fanning I always found him to be well clued in, very little bs.

Apileofballyhoo · 14/03/2021 15:08

Do teens still listen to 2FM? Who listens to 2FM? Everything makes me so tired.

Apileofballyhoo · 14/03/2021 15:09

I will complain. Not suitable for the time of day even if you agree with the bs.

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