Davina McCall wouldn't walk home alone in the dark

[MrGHardy]

twitter.com/ThisisDavina/status/1370302344575995904

Quite an interesting take for someone who most likely never has to walk home alone in the dark from work. Problem solved, eh?

"I wouldn’t walk home alone in the dark. And lots of men I know wouldn’t either... because there are some ( very few relatively ) bad people out there. But your response is say you view all men as a danger and I don’t think we should be spreading that message."

Absolutely is the same as the short skirt argument

She doesn't sound like a woman I'd want to be friends with @Handsoffstrikesagain

@PotholeParadies

Oh come on. Perhaps rolexes was overstating it, but "normal"? I doubt many of them are doing the 2-10 shift in Tesco, never mind unable to afford a taxi or a car.

My FiL is a multi millionaire who has an MBE. He has very normal mates! Why are people making such wild assumptions about Davina?

If 97% of women state they have been sexually harassed at some point in their lives then some of those men doing it are 'normal I'm afraid. They may live 'normal' lives with you or me. Have 'normal' jobs and love their kids. They may even help out at primary school.

Oh.

Davina is an idiot.

How disappointing.

It's not just after dark, is it?
I was molested in broad daylight as a child.
I was flashed at in the early afternoon as a teen.

In my younger years I have walked home alone at night because of having no money for a taxi. It's easy for davina to say that . She certainly can afford a taxi. She's out of touch with reality.

I saw Davina's name trending on Twitter yesterday so I went to see why and discover she's blocked me. I've never even interacted with her, she's never been of interest. Very odd.

I was sexually assaulted a couple of years ago. In broad daylight on a Saturday afternoon at the end of a busy high street. I still walk 'after dark' and during the day too.

The point is that, as other posters have said, its a bit of a stupid comment

Its dark at 4ish for a fair few months here and virtually impossible to have even a 9-5 job with out having to walk in the dark let alone shift work or actually wanting a social life

Public transport isn’t good in many areas, some people dont have cars and cant afford taxis on a regular basis

Dd is at uni and her regular walk to her classmates house involves walking through a subway where its not possible to see through it unless you are in it and where someone was stabbed to death, the lads at the house quite often walk her through it and weve said to get a taxi but i bet she doesn’t!

We live in a reasonably safe village (the only dodgy alley we have is called poo alley)

Well there goes any theatre or concert going for me then

I'm fortunate that I have a car so I drive to most of my evening activities. But sometimes I have to take public transport. I have many friends who don't have a car. What are they supposed to do? Sit at home and do their knitting?

My great grandfather was a war hero. He was the only member of his regiment to return from the trenches and had battle scars. He was revered, almost worshipped.
On the face of it, he was a lovely old man, an adored grandfather and great grandfather.

He was also a prolific paedophile who likely abused hundreds of girls over his lifetime.

Not all men are like that, true.

My son was a scholarship boy at a boys public school. He was a quiet, amiable boy who got on with his peers.
His housemaster told us of the time, when he was 14, he stood up to the rest of his dormitory and tore strips off them for their sexual jokes and references to girls from the girls school nearby. He called them disgusting.
It shocked them and stopped them in their tracks.

Not all men are like him, either. They need to be, they really do.

I think we need to focus on practical solutions, or at least ways to reduce the risks.
I’d like to see all girls taught a full course of krav maga in first year of high school. So they can confidently immobilise an attacker for long enough to let them run away and seek help.
It’s v empowering to know you can floor an attacker twice your size, and break any chokeholds even if grabbed from behind.
It would be a small step towards levelling the field in terms of relative strength of victim/attacker.
I also want to see all boys given compulsory education in consent, women’s rights, etc.

Due to my shop being in a pedestrianised area I HAVE to walk to my car, through cctv monitored streets to get to the service yard behind my shop. I can’t exit via the back door, it’s an alarmed fire door.
The service yard is dicey, it’s a dead end of all the back entrances of the high street shops. I’ve been followed without realising it, I remote unlocked my car as normal and then became aware of a man quickly turn around and jog away. It may have been innocent but it was quite nerve wracking and has made me hyper aware whenever I have to do that walk.

I walk and run quite a lot in the dark. Gavin de Becker’s book on intuiting danger is ingrained in my brain. I’m checking out every man who comes into my vicinity.

I guess that’s my solution to not wanting to be restricted - there is danger but I refuse to be restricted by that and so take steps to protect myself. I don’t think we can ever eliminate male violence...it’s in the dna, and in many ways it has evolutionary function and benefit, so i want to crack on the best I can. A can of mace has always appealed though...

@Babdoc

I agree that self defense is very much forgotten these days. It used to be the stable diet of feminism when it all began....practical and useful!

Somehow we’ve got to the point where women say “why should I have to protect myself, it’s men who need to change their behaviour” which is neither practical or sensible

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dad-who-attacked-woman-walking-23694175.amp?__twitter_impression=true

Doesn't help that when actually caught, courts hand out sentences like this.

I used to do self defence classes and moved onto Jujitsu. It was an all women's group and we learned some clever techniques that worked really well - on each other. Then I tried them on men. They made no difference whatsoever. I could barely wind them let alone break their grip.

It did make me fitter so I'd have stood a better chance running away, but even then, if a man had wanted to catch me, he would have done.

Sorry to be negative. I did get a lot out of the classes - fitness, confidence, friendships. But I also learned that the idea I could defend myself against a man who wanted to hurt me was delusional.

Not just walking home in the dark either. It’s only in the last month, I walk to the tube station at about 6.30am every morning and walk from the tube station to work and it’s dark on both legs for about 6 months of the year and vice versa on the way home. It’s light now and I always feel much safer

It's the shittiest of shitty takes. She can name Sarah at all in any of her replies but she "not all mens" A LOT

I don't have a problem with Davina's comments. She makes a valid point. One of the things I really dislike as a woman who has suffered abuse, is rhetoric that serves to increase my already ingrained hyper-vigilance and confirmation bias. I don't need to have my fears taken advantage of by the media and so called allies and advocates. Really don't. I find the same thing happens being black. I already have hyper-vigilance around racism and cognitive bias where I'm questioning daily if the mean white woman or man is just pissed off today or is singling me out because she doesn't like my skin tone. I don't need woke celebrities screaming racism every 5 minutes to feel even more fearful. I like and prefer to go through life having a positive view of white people AND men by default. And yes all this nonsense about male curfews etc and the surrounding language is demoralising for decent men, many of whom are disgusted, angry and offended by what's happened, and I have been spending plenty of time outlining how women ARE already hyper-vigilant to the men in my life and many have been even more receptive to learning about how I and other women in their lives feel because of the high profile nature of this.

The amount of sensationalist language around this I find distasteful. It is irresponsible. It increases anxiety and fear instead of looking at the stats realistically.

I don't know why Davina's comments are being attacked and assassination of her character (rolex watches🤨) is taking place. Can no one speak their minds anymore? And of course she's not blaming the victims, that's spinning what she said because an actual woman dared to speak against the hive atmosphere that has been built up over the past few days, where all women must speak alike.

Honestly. Put it this way if I went around saying 'but white people are the perpetrators of racism so lets scapegoat them all' (which attempts are currently being made with some success by the woke mob) that would hardly be rational. Similarly we must be careful to remember that whilst these crimes are mostly committed by men it remains the minority. One man - yorkshire ripper for eg- is all it takes to spread widespread fear and cause unbelievable devastation. One man out of millions.

No one seems yet to have commented on Davina's follow up tweet: when asked WHY she doesn’t walk in the dark, she replied “it gives me the willies”. Whichever poster up thread who knows her in real life might want to encourage her to read the room when presenting her trademark ‘cheeky charm’.