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Daniel Sloss: Everyday, Women Are Trying Their Hardest To Not Get Raped

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 11/03/2021 14:09

Very powerful - tweet quotes from Sloss video:

Were there signs in my friend's behaviour towards women that I ignored? Yes. And then he raped my friend. That's on me until the day I die.

twitter.com/AnnaCollinson/status/1369972777403506689

The video is worth watching - it's a call to action to men to intervene with other men. And for the intervention not to be in the 'hero' role of beating up a rapist but to actually intervene with eachother to prevent them.

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ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 11/03/2021 22:44

Really interesting, thanks for sharing.

teawamutu · 12/03/2021 09:51

I'd actually come on to start a thread about that clip - it's absolutely brilliant. Should be on the curriculum IMO.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 12/03/2021 09:55

Yes. I liked that. I think he was genuine.

TartrazineCustard · 12/03/2021 10:02

Hmm. I like his passion, but I wonder if he then went on to spell out what he'd seen in his friend's behaviour that he'd now regard as a red flag. People need to have examples of what not to do and what to do instead if you're going to get any sort of behaviour change.

teawamutu · 12/03/2021 13:05

Don't know, Tartrazine - planning to watch this weekend to see.

Veterinari · 12/03/2021 13:12

It's from his live show a couple of years ago. He tells the whole story. It is excellent. Like he says he doesn't have all the answers. But calling out misogynistic lad culture and societal acceptance of violence against women is a good first step.

SerendipityJane · 12/03/2021 14:29

If these are his NetFlix specials he also talks about his sister who was born with cerebral palsy and sadly died as a child. Very funny, but very hard watching too.

Just a heads up.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 12/03/2021 15:33

@TartrazineCustard

Hmm. I like his passion, but I wonder if he then went on to spell out what he'd seen in his friend's behaviour that he'd now regard as a red flag. People need to have examples of what not to do and what to do instead if you're going to get any sort of behaviour change.
Quoted on a different thread and it feels in line with the comment that if the 9 in 10 don't talk to the 1 in 10 who are the problem then they might as well not exist as far as their contribution to the problem goes. ---- This by @shrodingersbiscuit should be read by everyone. It is spot on.

“It's a pyramid effect. It's not a spectrum, with jokes at one end and rape and murder at the other, it's a human pyramid where minor acts support the major acts. It provides, at best, a foundation of blithe indifference, and at worst amusement at the denigration of women.

The foundation of the pyramid is innumerable silent men: those who stand idly by as sexism and misogyny play out, because they aren't like that. Their silence might be due to ignorance, intimidation or indifference, but its impact is always the same—silence is complicity, and it creates a stable base for other men to stand on without fear of retribution.

Next level is apologists - there are several species, male and female, many of whom are predatory themselves, but they all protect the interests of abusive men via systematic minimisation of their crimes. They're the type who say our collective consciousness around sexual predation is a ‘witch hunt’. Some are overt - bullying is ‘banter’, bragging about sexual assault is ‘locker room talk’, raping an unconscious woman behind a dumpster is ‘20 minutes of action’. Some are a bit more benign, like the ones who say, ‘sorry about my mate, he’s had too much to drink’. Unless they’re taking the time to have an uncomfortable chat with their friend about their behaviour, they're pointless.

Then we have the powerful. They’re the ones who quash victims’ allegations saying shit like ‘think carefully about pursuing this’. Who ask victims what they were wearing, and pillory them in the media sending the message that other victims won't be believed. They protect their abusive friends and colleagues from retribution for their actions, because their actions don't impact them.

And finally, at the peak of the pyramid, we have the predators. Flashers, gropers, murderers, abusers, rapists. They stand at the top, confident in their actions because of the complicit foundation those below provide.

What's being said is if we remove the base of a pyramid, it falls down. If men (who are the ones respected by those at the top of the pyramid) call out the everyday microaggressions against women the scum at the top can't/won't act as often, and hopefully, eventually, not at all. If your son/husband/boyfriend/cousin/whatever isn't actively calling out sexism and misogyny in his every day life then he is part of the silent base of the pyramid. And that, is the problem.“

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DdraigGoch · 12/03/2021 17:24

The pyramid concept probably originates in health and safety. In Heinrich's Triangle, 2 million unsafe acts will result in 240k near misses, 20k minor injuries, 400 serious injuries and 1 fatality. Reduce the unsafe acts and you proportionately reduce each of the higher categories and prevent the fatality. Substitute "unsafe acts," "near misses", "minor injuries", "serious injuries", and "fatality" for "wandering eyes", "cat-calling", "groping", "rape", and "murder".

DdraigGoch · 12/03/2021 17:25

Is there a full-length version of the DANIEL Sloss clip?

DdraigGoch · 12/03/2021 17:30

No idea why that capitalised there

SerendipityJane · 12/03/2021 17:45

@DdraigGoch

Is there a full-length version of the DANIEL Sloss clip?
I think it comes from his "X" show in 2019. Which was on HBO

www.hbo.com/specials/daniel-sloss-x

(you may need some internet magic to watch)

If it wasn't for Netflix and HBO, you'd wouldn't have anything captured, as he's not really a mainstream act. Like a lot of stuff I find ...

SomeoneInTheLaaaaaounge · 13/03/2021 10:37

Wow - wasn’t expecting that. Am I’m floods of tears. Thank you Daniel so so much, that means a lot to me for many reasons.

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