Tuesday 9th March - could be a big day

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1. Helen Staniland and Glinner giving evidence to the Commons

1. Fair Play For Women VS UK Statistics Authority at Royal Courts of Justice at 10am

1. The Court of Appeal and Harry/ We Are Fair Cop - The Court of Appeal will examine the validity of the College of Police Hate Crimes Guidance

I wanted to start a thread where any major decisions or outcomes and links to anyone live tweeting or online footage. See you back here tomorrow!

Fair Cop on YouTube

Is it right that I am going to have to declare myself nonbinary according to this census? I don't have a 'gender identity'.

[quote MsMarvellous]@SchadenfreudePersonified and so we come back to the fact that the "trans lobby" is not for transsexual people but a men's rights group. The trans people who the rights and protections are there to cover are being done as much of a disservice as women, and the majority in here and in other GC circles have said so for a long time.

Yes we are fighting for women's rights and spaces, but that goes hand in glove, in these instances, with supporting spaces and rights for trans people whose desire to be the opposite sex is serious and lifelong. [/quote]
Exactly!

Harry's up. Watch it live:

It's now 2pm. Court rises /57

Can someone also give brief details of how Harry's case goes? I can't watch but I can check in for updates.

Live tweeting of fair cop appeal.
mobile.twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1369287205546569731

Woah, a livestream. God. All at once!!

@FindTheTruth

It's now 2pm. Court rises /57

Court rises. Gulp.

Judge: Is there a serious question to be tried and does the balance of convenience require interim relief? /58

Surely there must be some sort of audit trail at the ONS to explain the reversal from birth sex to self-ID sex between early February and the 22nd? Who pushed through the change? And why?

Q.27, the new gender identity question talks about identity in relation to 'your sex registered at birth' - not even what is on your birth certificate (now) - so they have the necessary vocabulary embedded in the form already.

It is actually a really good phrase - so it seems daft not to just have reused it in the guidance.

Here's my attempt

Sex:
Male
Female

Guidance
Record your sex registered at birth.

Your personal census data will only be made public in 2121. Accurate data on biological sex helps government to plan and resource health services, screening, education etc for the whole population.

Q.27 is an optional question to record your gender identity. Answering Q. 27 helps government to plan and resource health services etc specifically for people whose gender identity is different to their sex registered at birth.

You may request a paper copy of the census if you wish to record a gender identity or sexual orientation but do not wish it to be known by other household members on 21st March.

Sure it can be improved on but it is not impossible...

[quote GAHgamel]@CardinalLolzy
Defendants contention that statutory interpretation of sex = sex written on any document is 'hopeless' /53
The judge said that?? shock
Genuinely mindblowing to see anyone say that out loud!

This was part of FPFW's barrister's response to the ONS' barrister, not the judge, sorry.[/quote]
Ah, thanks for clarifying.

Judge: Is there a serious question to be tried and does the balance of convenience require interim relief? /58

Judge: Time is short. Interim relief now would likely be an effective removal for the whole of the census /59

Judge: Time is short. Interim relief now would likely be an effective removal for the whole of the census /59

Judge: Time is short. Interim relief now would likely be an effective removal for the whole of the census /59

bears repeating!

Oh dear - I have a bad feeling.

@ArabellaScott

Judge: Time is short. Interim relief now would likely be an effective removal for the whole of the census /59

If the data collected is false and meaningless then there is no point to the Census.

he's going to say its too late

If the whole census would have to be pulled then on the balance test the guidance probably will stand, sadly but keep the updates coming.

This is very nerve racking!

it would be too much hassle to pull it so may as well gather all this meaningless data, eh?