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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ben Bradley MP

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Imnobody4 · 05/03/2021 11:18

Ben Bradley is joining the WESC.
Delighted to join the @Commonswomequ Women & Equalities Select Committee in the @HouseofCommons and be part of the debate on some really important and pressing issues.

Had some mixed feelings - he did call for a Minister for Men in HoC.
However he's also willing to challenge orthodoxies. This thread is encouraging.

twitter.com/BBradley_Mans/status/1275882899133403136?s=19
Reading @Transgendertrd evaluation of Stonewall guidance for schools on the train. Have to say some shocking legal, scientific and moral problems identified. Not least the concept of "affirmation, secrecy from parents and the idea that sex is "assigned" rather than biological. t.co/Uw3RG1gvlN

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UppityPuppity · 05/03/2021 11:51

My initial response is that this is a good thing. I watched his interview by the Triggerpod pair and thought he came across well. I certainly prefer him to a (now) long list of women MPs.

Also, I think I saw his name on the list of MPs wanting the words ‘women’ and ‘mother’ included into the maternity bill. Another poster might be able to confirm this.

rogdmum · 05/03/2021 13:14

I’m delighted by this. I wrote to him many months ago on the back of one of his tweets (I’m not a constituent) and received a lovely email back from him which made clear he understood exactly what my concerns are.

gardenbird48 · 05/03/2021 13:15

He seems like a good guy from what I’ve seen on Twitter - I wonder what Caroline Noakes thinks?

Highwind · 05/03/2021 13:18

As long as he knows what a woman is (and it seems like he does) then I for one am fully behind this appointment.

peak2021 · 05/03/2021 13:21

A minister for men if it enabled men's health to be discussed more would be no bad thing. It is often women who have to pick up the pieces when men ignore their physical or mental health.

So I would not hold that against him, and as he seems to recognise that women exist (unlike our Prime Minister outside the bedroom), perhaps a good appointment.

Highwind · 05/03/2021 13:29

That’s such a good point Peak.

I sometimes forget that both of the sexes fall into risk of things like medical negligence.

Women tend to seek help more often and get ignored or deemed as just being hysterical by the professionals, whilst men don’t tend to seek help at all due to a harmful rhetoric of “manning up” etc.

I would absolutely support a minister for men, which I hope would vouch for all males (even those who like wearing lipstick and dresses), may help to free up the women’s equality ministers to focus on women’s issues.

OvaHere · 05/03/2021 14:15

I watched the Triggernomentry he did a little while back. It was interesting and what struck me was he came across as someone who a couple of decades ago would have been in the Labour Party. He's very much someone who is representative of his community and working class interests. The fact that someone like him can now only carve out a space in politics via the Conservative Party shows what a strange world we currently live in.

Mollyollydolly · 05/03/2021 14:18

@OvaHere

I watched the Triggernomentry he did a little while back. It was interesting and what struck me was he came across as someone who a couple of decades ago would have been in the Labour Party. He's very much someone who is representative of his community and working class interests. The fact that someone like him can now only carve out a space in politics via the Conservative Party shows what a strange world we currently live in.
I thought exactly the same thing. If Labour had any sense they'd make the same connection.
OvaHere · 05/03/2021 14:22

I thought exactly the same thing. If Labour had any sense they'd make the same connection.

They don't seem to be interested in doing that!

RozWatching · 05/03/2021 14:46

@rogdmum

I’m delighted by this. I wrote to him many months ago on the back of one of his tweets (I’m not a constituent) and received a lovely email back from him which made clear he understood exactly what my concerns are.
Very happy to hear that rogdmum.

He has made some truly awful and stupid comments on various other topics though (eg school meal vouchers).
Let's see how he does. He is one of those 'why isn't there an International Men's Day' guys - here is his opportunity to speak constructively about men's issues.

EnglishGirlApproximately · 05/03/2021 14:54

Ben Bradley is my MP and while be does know what a woman is he absolutely isn't someone I would celebrate being anywhere near an equalities committee. He barely manages to conceal his racism on social media - he blocks consitiuents who question his lies and let's appallingly racist language stand unchallenged. Hes doesn't remotely represent his working class constituents unless they are right wing pro brexit. He says appalling things about the poor and has claimed that benefits get spent in crack dens and brothels, and the 75% of parents in one part of his constituency are illiterate.
Hes far from a friend to women, his interest in this is all about being anti woke and playing to his audience. He's caused more divide on this town than I've ever known.
I'm GC and welcome voices of reason and balance on the debate but Bradley isn't it.

boredinthouse · 05/03/2021 14:59

@OvaHere

I watched the Triggernomentry he did a little while back. It was interesting and what struck me was he came across as someone who a couple of decades ago would have been in the Labour Party. He's very much someone who is representative of his community and working class interests. The fact that someone like him can now only carve out a space in politics via the Conservative Party shows what a strange world we currently live in.
He absolutely doesn't represent the views of his constituency! He's said some truly awful things about families in our area and what he thinks of us.
boredinthouse · 05/03/2021 15:03

@EnglishGirlApproximately

Ben Bradley is my MP and while be does know what a woman is he absolutely isn't someone I would celebrate being anywhere near an equalities committee. He barely manages to conceal his racism on social media - he blocks consitiuents who question his lies and let's appallingly racist language stand unchallenged. Hes doesn't remotely represent his working class constituents unless they are right wing pro brexit. He says appalling things about the poor and has claimed that benefits get spent in crack dens and brothels, and the 75% of parents in one part of his constituency are illiterate. Hes far from a friend to women, his interest in this is all about being anti woke and playing to his audience. He's caused more divide on this town than I've ever known. I'm GC and welcome voices of reason and balance on the debate but Bradley isn't it.
I agree with this 100%. He's also my mp.
EnglishGirlApproximately · 05/03/2021 15:03

@boredinthouse agree I'm also a constituent. He wouldn't live in this area for all the money in the world and wouldn't cross the road to avoid most of the population if he wasn't being paid to be here.

picklemewalnuts · 05/03/2021 15:08

I've known him in the past. I don't agree with him about everything, by any means, but he's a nice guy. It winds me up when he says stupid things, mind. He doesn't toe the line on political correctness, doesn't shy off calling a spade a spade.

He's not always, imo, sensible about how he talks about race and poverty but I don't think that truly reflects who he is. He's inclined to hyperbole. He thinks people shouldn't have more children than they can afford to look after- and most of us would agree with that- but said something foolish and controversial about it.

He's against critical race theory and wants schemes aimed at deprivation and disadvantage rather than particular target groups in that category.

I'd say he'll stand up and be counted when some will stay quiet to avoid being 'politically incorrect'.

Honestly, I get annoyed with him because he gives the impression of being a daily Mail knee jerk 'PC gorn maad' type guy, but he's actually pretty decent.

He's not great on feminism, but only in the way most blokes are not great on it. He seems to treat individual women with respect. He's got that blokey 'they need to spend Saturday morning grappling on the rugby pitch, that'd teach up!' thing going on.

Ova here is pretty much spot on.

OvaHere · 05/03/2021 15:10

He absolutely doesn't represent the views of his constituency! He's said some truly awful things about families in our area and what he thinks of us.

Interesting. Thanks for the further insight from yourself and EnglishGirl. I knew nothing about him beyond the interview I watched so my impression was based on that.

Cwenthryth · 05/03/2021 15:11

I find Ben Bradley to be one of those people that we may have agree about some basic things (what a woman is), and appreciate some of his points about white WC boys etc, but other than that have very different approaches to life and wouldn’t consider a feminist ally at all, just someone we may be able to work with on specific issues.

picklemewalnuts · 05/03/2021 15:28

It's a shame he got in as an mp as fast as he did- he could have done with a bit longer on the sidelines learning when to keep his mouth shut. He's relatively young.

EnglishGirlApproximately · 05/03/2021 15:35

Unfortunately his inexperience of anything approaching the real world shows, he hasn't learnt how to be diplomatic and communicate with people with opposing views. He could quite easily end up hindering anything he gets involved in as he just doesn't know how to be appropriate.

Imnobody4 · 05/03/2021 16:48

Agree about his inexperience. I agree with him on some things but I hope he tempers his language and doesn't inflame things.

A question he asked in HoC made me laugh, the peerless Kemi's response must have burst his bubble.
To ask the Minister for Women and Equalities, whether her Department collects data on the effect of the Equality Act 2010 on heterosexual white males.

Asked 2 December 2020

Data is not collected routinely or centrally on the effect of the Equality Act 2010 on different groups. Individual public authorities are responsible for conducting Public Sector Equality Duty assessments of new measures and collecting and using data to ensure that the impact of policies on all groups, including men and heterosexual people, is adequately considered.

Answered 10 December 2020

ByKemi Badenoch(Conservative, Saffron Walden)

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DisgustedofManchester · 05/03/2021 18:04

The world has gone mad when Bradley is on the Women and Equalities committee but then again look at Liz Truss. What next? Jacob Rees Mogg to chair the Food, Poverty, Health and Environment Committee? Maybe Jennick will chair the Bribery Act 2010 committee.

mellongoose · 05/03/2021 18:34

@DisgustedofManchester

The world has gone mad when Bradley is on the Women and Equalities committee but then again look at Liz Truss. What next? Jacob Rees Mogg to chair the Food, Poverty, Health and Environment Committee? Maybe Jennick will chair the Bribery Act 2010 committee.
Ben Bradley is campaigning on behalf of life chances for white working class boys. Statistically this group are the least likely to go to university and have worse life chances.

I admire this as it shines a light on something that gets little press attention.

There will be a good balance on that committee so policy will be scrutinised and considered from lots of different perspectives.

mellongoose · 05/03/2021 18:35

He has been silenced in this subject several times in the HoC. That can't be right.

toomanytrees · 05/03/2021 18:42

"He absolutely doesn't represent the views of his constituency"

His 16,000 vote majority seems to indicate otherwise.