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Women murdered in Afghanistan - journalists, judges, doctor.

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persistentwoman · 05/03/2021 06:25

The Times are reporting on a campaign in Afghanistan to keep women out of the workplace. In recent months two women judges, a doctor and four journalists have all been murdered resulting in women either fleeing the country or having to remain hidden in their homes. Another despairing story where women are targeted because of their sex:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1f49b3a8-7cc7-11eb-83b7-5869de54abef?shareToken=f4afab63d315635779c5b49d92814a58

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Beachcomber · 05/03/2021 06:56

Thank you for the share token. I'll have a look when I can. Just place marking just now.

PurpleHoodie · 05/03/2021 07:04

Thanks for sharing.

Will read in a little while.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 05/03/2021 07:15

The attacks on the broadcasters and the doctor were claimed by the Afghan affiliate of Islamic State, which retains a stronghold in the eastern province of Nangarhar. Although Isis and the Taliban are rivals, it serves both their interests if a campaign of mayhem and fear destabilises the country and undermines President Ghani’s government.

Despite the defiance of many, the terrorist onslaught is hollowing out Afghanistan’s media and civil society. Those who can afford it are leaving in their thousands. Many more have gone to ground or work only from home. With each murder, the number of those venturing out dwindles further.

When it's government that does this to their citizens, it's democide. I don't know if there's a name that covers this.

persistentwoman · 05/03/2021 07:24

It feels so awful watching this from afar and knowing that there's nothing any of us can do except for highlight what is happening.

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justanotherneighinparadise · 05/03/2021 07:46

Awful 😔

SunsetBeetch · 05/03/2021 07:51

Oh my god Sad

risefromyourgrave · 05/03/2021 07:53

It’s particularly heartbreaking when you look back to how modernised it was becoming back in the late 50’s - early 60’s.

Winesalot · 05/03/2021 09:01

I have followed this and find it very disturbing. It needs as much sunlight as it can.

ArabellaScott · 05/03/2021 09:34

Terrifying, and heartbreaking. Thanks for the share.

Pottedcat · 05/03/2021 09:50

Bump.
Awful news. What strikes is how immediate the danger is and how trapped women and girls are. Even if you conform, stay home and not want these things, you still will not be safe.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 05/03/2021 10:09

As the Taliban eyes a return to power, Afghans fear that the insurgents have set about eradicating the country’s civil society and institutions, which impede their path to restoring the brutal Islamist state that dominated during the 1990s.

The group claims that it has moved away from its notorious treatment of women at that time, when they were barred from education and work, forced to wear the burqa and faced public flogging or execution for violating Taliban laws.

Reading this actually took me back in time to the 90’s, to the day I first read about the Taliban’s treatment of women in some random email that was forwarded on to me, I think. It still wasn’t being reported widely in MSM, I hadn’t come across it anyway, and I wasn’t sure whether it was a reliable source. I’m just now remembering my utter shock, horror and disbelief that day.

It seemed unthinkable to me then that women’s rights could have gone so far backwards, anywhere in the world. I couldn’t get my head around it. If it was true, I didn’t understand why the world wasn’t making a huge noise about it, instead of the truth being almost smuggled out, doing the rounds via this email in this desperate attempt to raise awareness.

Of course it did all turn out to be true. It was the Handmaid’s Tale in RL.

It’s sobering to remember that, and to realise that over the last two to three decades, this has become normalised, insofar as while the horror remains, it is no longer unexpected. It no longer seems out of step with everything I thought I knew about the world. We have seen so much of this rollback of women’s rights, freedoms, protections and status, in so many arenas, it’s not “news” any more that misogyny is still so viciously entrenched, and we are nowhere near eradicating it.

Heartbreaking to see this news, and desperately worrying.

Gcnq · 05/03/2021 10:15

To see how all these women were killed even though they covered up their hair when outside every day for their entire adult life, goes to show you can never capitulate enough. Patriarchy will always demand more.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/03/2021 10:16

Bumping.

Has anyone seen the animated film 'The Breadwinner'?

ArabellaScott · 05/03/2021 10:17

We have seen so much of this rollback of women’s rights, freedoms, protections and status, in so many arenas, it’s not “news” any more that misogyny is still so viciously entrenched

Yes, quite right. It's similar to the jolt I felt looking at pictures of Turkey or Iran in the 70s. How things have unravelled. How quickly women are pushed back down.

LizzieSiddal · 05/03/2021 10:26

I heard about the murder of the Women journalists, on BBC news, they also mentioned 'Tuesday's shootings are part of a wave of killings, with rights activists, judges and journalists among targets.* This is a link to the online report. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56254356

They failed to mention it is women who are being targeted. Angry
I may have to complain, yet again!

MaudTheInvincible · 05/03/2021 10:29

Horrible, horrible. Yes LizzieSiddal the Times article completely downplays the sex of those murdered too.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 05/03/2021 14:07

@Gcnq

To see how all these women were killed even though they covered up their hair when outside every day for their entire adult life, goes to show you can never capitulate enough. Patriarchy will always demand more.
So much this.
TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 05/03/2021 14:07

It's similar to the jolt I felt looking at pictures of Turkey or Iran in the 70s. How things have unravelled. How quickly women are pushed back down.

Absolutely.

TwistedEyeOfHorus · 05/03/2021 17:48

It's gutwrenching. And horrible to feel there's very little to be done.
If only there was an international human rights organisation that campaigned and ran demonstrations against such stuff...

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 09/03/2021 23:28

As the inevitable update - TV stations are now reluctant to employ or hire women because they can't guarantee their safety in the light of these deaths and the ongoing violence.

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/mar/09/afghanistan-broadcaster-women-killed-isis

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/03/2021 23:33

Reading this actually took me back in time to the 90’s, to the day I first read about the Taliban’s treatment of women in some random email that was forwarded on to me, I think. It still wasn’t being reported widely in MSM, I hadn’t come across it anyway, and I wasn’t sure whether it was a reliable source. I’m just now remembering my utter shock, horror and disbelief that day.

It seemed unthinkable to me then that women’s rights could have gone so far backwards, anywhere in the world. I couldn’t get my head around it. If it was true, I didn’t understand why the world wasn’t making a huge noise about it, instead of the truth being almost smuggled out, doing the rounds via this email in this desperate attempt to raise awareness.

Of course it did all turn out to be true. It was the Handmaid’s Tale in RL.

Yes, exactly. There are some startling parallels.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/03/2021 23:33

It's similar to the jolt I felt looking at pictures of Turkey or Iran in the 70s. How things have unravelled. How quickly women are pushed back down.

I find those pictures bone chilling.

WendyTestaburger · 10/03/2021 09:06

This is awful and terrifying and heartbreaking.

In terms of asylum, is it harder for women to leave? I imagine the journey would be even more dangerous for a woman, especially if alone.

I can't believe our own media isn't highlighting that it is women being killed in these attacks?! I thought, more or less, that the woke agenda wasn't affecting how they report foreign affairs quite so much?

Thecatonthemat · 10/03/2021 09:10

No words

TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 10/03/2021 09:44

This is chilling. Those poor women.

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