Vancouver opens facility for transgender persons only after pulling funds from women's crisis center for 'transphobia'

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In Vancouver, women are second-class citizens. The city that rescinded grant for woman-only rape shelter intends to spend $3.8 million to create a facility that is only for transgender people.

Vancouver city council, the same council that garnered international outrage after it stripped funding from Vancouver Rape Relief and Women's Shelter (VRR) for being female-only, has now invested CAD $3.8 million into housing for transgender-identified people.

thepostmillennial.com/vancouver-opens-facility-for-transgender-persons-only-after-shutting-down-a-womens-crisis-center-for-transphobia

Do they not see the contradiction in what they are doing. If they are funding safe spaces for trans persons, ie recognising that part of feeling safe is being with those who have a similar experience and understanding, why dont they think women deserve the same?

Funding a trans only refuge undermines their reason for cutting funds to women only services.

We really are living in Alice in Wonderland. Or is it the Emporer's New Clothes?

Torn between total anger and utter despair.

Bet no one nails a dead rat to their door.

Surely women can self-identify into it?

I wonder what the appeal will be to prospective residents if there are no "cis"-women allowed?

Yup. Try identifying out of that inequality if you were born female.

Surely women can self-identify into it? Surely NOT!!

The whole point about women only refuges is so that women do NOT have to have their save space invaded by those who were born male but say they identify as women.

Either way it is the double standard hypocrasy that is the point of the article.

If you recognise that what is common to you is the basis on which a service is offered why isn't this true of women.

I suspect well entrenched long standard sex discrimination against women by the sex class men.

The solution we've asked for all along is appropriate facilities & funding for the groups that need them.
Its very telling that the shelter helping women and their children is the one being refused funding.

its not clear to me what kind of facility this is. Is it just housing? or some kind of supported accommodation?
Whatever, I predict that it will not be popular among transwomen.

@nauticant

I wonder what the appeal will be to prospective residents if there are no "cis"-women allowed?

There will be "transmen". Who are often extremely emotionally vulnerable. I'm sure they'll cope. Might not get their validation, but mixed-sex accommodation is mixed-sex accommodation.

But just as with toilets, changing rooms etc, some of those trans gender people will not want to go to a transgender facility, it must be the WOMEN'S facility.

But but isn't that transphobic to suggest there is some difference between TW and women? Not only that but to also suggest the needs of TW differ from those of women?

I think the article explains quite clearly the function of the project:

" ... The first single-resident-occupancy (SRO) that is specifically and only for those persons who identify as transgender, gender diverse, or two-spirited. The Ross-Aoki House will be in Downtown Eastside, and will have room for 24 residents.

The city used funds from its Empty Home Tax to buy the 24-bed Ross-Aoki House, which will be staffed by the non-profit organization Atira. In its 2021 budget, council identified their intention to focus on "equity and critical social issues."

Councilwoman Lisa Dominato said that Ross-Aoki House "is really about an equity and ensuring that the transgender diverse and two-spirit community has access to safe affordable housing."

"There's a real win in this," Dominato said, "in that we know that the transgender diverse, two-spirit community faces higher rates of homelessness, [and] is also at higher risk for violence. So, we're able to meet the needs of this underserved community in terms of housing."

"Because coming out within their families wasn't accepted so ended up being forced out of their homes and onto the street," ... "

But as homeless women are also very vulnerable to male violence still doesn't make sense that trans persons need to be protected but women dont!

Its this whole false narrative that implies women lie about the violence and discrimination they face, because the patriarchy has decided that trans people suffer more.

Never forget one of the reasons the trans narrative has such traction is it always men as a class not to have the finger pointed at them for their abuse and violence towards women.

What part of Canadian equality law allows for a shelter solely for 'transgender, gender diverse, or two-spirited' people? Does that same law also allow for shelters like VRR that are solely for female sexed people?

I know things are bad in Canada but is sex still recognised in law at all? I'm guessing it is, because despite the nasty, vicious campaign of harassment against VRR, nobody has succeeded in getting them shut down for operating unlawfully.

If VRR were operating unlawfully it would not have been necessary to nail rats to their door after unsuccessfully dragging them through the courts for decades.

If it hadn't been for the rats and the decades long campaign of harassment and defunding of VRR I would wholeheartedly support this proposal for specialist services.

As it is, it's clear that this is instead of services for women, not as well as.

How cisphobic of them

As it ever was I guess - ruling elite always have special rules because I'm sure that a woman's only shelter would still be verboten.

Could someone with more knowledge than me please explain what “two-spirited people” are?
Thanks.

The organisation that run it, Atira, states its mission is to combat violence against women. They define women as being anyone who identifies as being a woman, It already runs a number of sheltered accommodations for women only. I wonder if the increasing number of non -binary people or gender diverse people find the idea of women only accommodation unpalatable. Transgender women and men are often antipathetic to non-binary people .Hence the need for this new category of hostel.

I have no objection to a trans shelter. I think it's a good idea. Trans people face specific obstacles so having specialist provision makes a great deal of sense.
It's utter hypocrisy for them to recognise that trans women have different experiences and provide specialist provision for them, while defunding and bullying women for trying to supply the same thing.
I do wonder if part of the reason for the new shelter is that Canada have recognised that mixed provision is a real problem and this is how they're trying to provide separate provision for TW without coming under attack for it.

WhoWh0 two spirit is an Indigenous North American term for people who are gender non-conforming (slightly over simple explanation) but it's now been appropriated by the trans movement.

Surely this is a good thing. Creating a shelter for trans people will take the pressure off women’s refuges to accommodate male people and create the third space we are always speaking about. There is obviously a need for a service for trans people. Perhaps once the dust has settled people will realise that this is the best solution and other services will follow suit.

@WhoWh0

Could someone with more knowledge than me please explain what “two-spirited people” are? Thanks.

Cultural appropriation

they are in Canada though so I guess it's plausible they would have 2 spirit people? unsure exactly which First Nations have this as a concept

Why on earth are the women in Canada putting up with this? There doesn't really seem to be any pushback to all this crazy!

I mean having a Trans only shelter is probably the right idea but pulling funding from women's rape shelters to pay for it is batshit. Especially when you've used their non inclusivity as the reason, make it make sense 😭