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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tavistock NHS Monitoring Form

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BearEastie · 27/02/2021 15:36

In the last few days I received a Tavistock NHS Monitoring Form, I am also in the process of filling out an NHS job application for a volunteer role - the two are wildly different when it comes to questions regarding sex.

Tavistock has absolutely no mention of sex, or gender - I am not a GIDS patient.

The NHS volunteer role asks "Have you gone through any part of the process (including thoughts and actions) to change from the sex you were described as at birth to the gender you identify with, or are you intending to? "

I honestly don't know why the Tavistock are not asking about sex - one of the most fundamental protected characteristics, and the other form is making it wildly complicate by including the thoughts and actions statement - surely the vast majority of sporty women in their teenage years had figured out it was preferential to be the other sex and at least thought about what it would be like to be male.

Does anyone have more formulated thoughts on either of these points, please do share them?

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LucretiaBourgeois · 27/02/2021 15:43

It looks as if the NHS are trying to find out if (as a volunteer) you have the Equality Act protected characteristic of gender reassignment. Do they ask about all the others (sex, race etc?)

What characteristics do the Tavistock ask about?

BearEastie · 27/02/2021 15:50

This is the Tavistock questions:

A. Ethnic Group (Please select the ethnic group that you most identify with from the list below):

Country of origin:

Are you a Refugee or stateless person?

First language:

Do you need an interpreter?

B. Religious Beliefs (Please tick the appropriate box)

C. Sexuality

D. Marital Status

D. Employment Status

E. What is your accommodation status? (

F. Do you smoke?

G. Are you an ex-member of British armed forces or dependent on such a person?

H. Disability Monitoring
Do you have any physical or mental health conditions lasting, or expected to last, 12 months or more?

Yes, limited a lot ☐
No

Yes, limited a little ☐
Prefer not to say

If you answered yes to the above then please complete the following
Yes, limited a lot Yes, limited a little No Prefer not to say
Behaviour/Emotional ☐


Hearing ☐


Manual dexterity ☐


Memory or ability to concentrate, learn or understand (Learning Disabilities and Autism Spectrum Disorder) where patient was 18 or over when symptoms began ☐


Mobility and Gross Motor ☐


Perception of physical danger ☐


Personal, self-care and continence ☐


Progressive conditions and physical health (e.g. HIV, cancer, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy) ☐


Sight ☐


Speech ☐


Autism Spectrum Conditions ☐


Other (please specify): ☐


If you have a disability do you use any assistive technology?

I. Accessible Information

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BearEastie · 27/02/2021 15:51

Apologies for the dodgy cut and paste formatting!

My only thought is maybe they directly take my sex from my NHS records? However, several of those questions would be noted on my NHS records.

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LucretiaBourgeois · 27/02/2021 15:51

@LucretiaBourgeois

It looks as if the NHS are trying to find out if (as a volunteer) you have the Equality Act protected characteristic of gender reassignment. Do they ask about all the others (sex, race etc?)

What characteristics do the Tavistock ask about?

Sorry, for clarity, the Equality Act says:

A person has the protected characteristic of gender reassignment if the person is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process (or part of a process) for the purpose of reassigning the person's sex by changing physiological or other attributes of sex.

So it looks as if they're sort of trying to paraphrase that language. It would be a better approach than talking about "gender identity" which is not a protected characteristic.

RagzReturnsRebooted · 27/02/2021 15:53

Other than physiological, what is an attribute of sex?

LucretiaBourgeois · 27/02/2021 15:59

Are you able to say in what context the Tavistock is monitoring you? It does look a bit odd not to ask about your sex anywhere on a monitoring form.

BearEastie · 27/02/2021 16:06

@LucretiaBourgeois I am not really sure - the clinical team didn't even realise I had been sent the form. But i would like to raise the fact that I think sex should be asked on it (I have an identity disorder so it's important to me to hang on to the bits I know are scientific fact because the rest can be chaos!)

I think they must be monitoring all of their service users across the trust - maybe it's for funding, maybe it's an internal review, I will let you know when they get back to me.

I feel that some of the questions are really invasive though as well, and cannot see why they are needed ie. continence ones.

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