So angry right now

[RhapsodyandAshe]

Have just been forwarded a power point presentation outlining the disadvantages for women who are persuing a career in health care from a member of the organisation I work for, who includes her pronouns in order to be supportive of trans people.
I am writing this so I don't respond with something long the lines of:
Is this Presentation for biological females or for anyone who feels they might be classed as a women because 'feels'.
How can I respond in a way that draws attention to the whole cognitive dissonance to the sender, without being outed as a 'terf'?

Includes her pronouns at the bottom of her emails that should read.

more importantly, does the presentation just say 'it is rubbish to be a woman' or does it say things that can be done to make it better?

And if the latter, are those things that an individual is meant to do (dress professionally, speak up etc) or things that the organisation as a whole should do (make sure promotions are merit based / have good policies on family leave.

Because it is only the last of these that really makes a difference for women. The rest is just window dressing.

And getting those policies right is much more important than pronouns. I just ignore those.

Ignore the pronouns and thank her for the presentation, letting her know how much it will help adult human females?

The presentation was put together by a very senior person in our organisation and then forwarded by someone else (the one with the pronouns.
The presentation seems to be implying that a man presenting as a women would suffer the same kind of disadvantages that women routinely suffer. Not said outright but the undertone is there.

Can you do:

Thank you so much for this! I'm so glad that people are starting to pay more attention to [maternity leave policies and the leaky promotion pipeline for mothers].

i.e. when you respond just mention the issues that clearly and obviously only affect actual women?

Perhaps link it to the provisions of the Equality Act so you can focus on sex based discrimination but make reference to a person with a GRC (PC of Gender Reassignment) where relevant. That way you focussing on the legal framework rather than her opinions.

@allmywhat

Fabulous idea, will use that to draft a response in the morning because it does indeed make reference to those kinds of issues.

Alongside stuff like how can you help people who are more disadvantaged than you...

Has she addressed the issues raised in this article?

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/06/female-doctors-in-menopause-retiring-early-due-to-sexism-says-study

I've closed the presentation (logged off from work).
Noticed mention of maternity leave and how women Dr's/medical staff should be helped when they return, also mentioned unsociable working hours and the impact this has on mothers,.
Don't remember seeing mention of the menopause and that leading to early retirement but might be there on a re-read.

Also, 'May I ask how including pronouns in email addresses women's disadvantage in the work place?'.

@allmywhat

Can you do:

Thank you so much for this! I'm so glad that people are starting to pay more attention to [maternity leave policies and the leaky promotion pipeline for mothers].

i.e. when you respond just mention the issues that clearly and obviously only affect actual women?

Love it!

Eek I've done it, shaking slightly, how did we end up here?

Had a reply suggesting that maybe I would like to do a presentation, have replied saying fab will do when my life is less complicated.

@RhapsodyandAshe

Have just been forwarded a power point presentation outlining the disadvantages for women who are persuing a career in health care from a member of the organisation I work for, who includes her pronouns in order to be supportive of trans people. I am writing this so I don't respond with something long the lines of: Is this Presentation for biological females or for anyone who feels they might be classed as a women because 'feels'. How can I respond in a way that draws attention to the whole cognitive dissonance to the sender, without being outed as a 'terf'?

ha ha unlikely that you can. If they choose to express pronouns, that is their choice and hardly hurting you. Just ignore it, take a chill pull and move on with life. :)

*chill pill

Always good to have an opportunity to post this

fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/

Surely promoting pronoun use encourages discrimination? Because getting an email from k Oxford (she/her) makes it obvious your talking to a female

Brilliant article @Biscuitsanddoombar
I always use first initial last name if this is offered as an option, frustrating when it isn't!
Had a reply from the person who made the PowerPoint thanking me for my interest. Hopefully that's a good thing...