The NHS, again.

[BernardsarenotalwaysSaints]

I'm fed up of this. People should be able to access the NHS website & read factual information on conditions, yet we get this...

full page rather than just the screenshot.

Oh FFS!

I think they just missed a comma: 'For men, and for women whose periods have stopped, iron deficiency anaemia can be a sign of bleeding in the stomach and intestines'.

They even put men before women. Ffs

I think it's just a missing comma. "For men, and for women whose periods have stopped..."

@Bawdrip

They even put men before women. Ffs

Exactly! It's fucking ridiculous!

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Yes, it's missing a comma.

Easy there!

Women and trans 'men'

I believe iron deficiency anaemia can affect men too though - male people. Caused by intestinal bleeding.

Ok looking at it closer I see that it is indeed likely a comma issue, because they've used the word "for" twice.

Agree, it's just a grammatical thing

For women whose periods have stopped, and for men, ...

would read much better

It's just missing a comma. It isn't referring to transmen.

It's very badly written. It implies that anaemia caused by gastrointestinal bleeding (which could be a sign of cancer) doesn't occur in women pre-menopause.

It's just a punctuation issue. But we are so primed for this nonsense that it's easy to see it as otherwise!

@BernardsarenotalwaysSaints
I concur -it doesn't mean trans men, it means actual men (the male ones), who also get anaemia.

To be fully inclusive, it should really read men and trans women and women whose periods have stopped. :)

Easy mistake to make, but if you are now satisfied it is just grammatical error, could you ask mumsnet to delete the thread?

The fact that this can be misunderstood in this way just serves to underline how important clarity is.

A man could read this and assume it only refers to trans men.

Imagine your life being so tragic that you would get worked up about a missing comma and an incorrect inference.

Sorry, I've not disappeared, not read many replies, got a phone call about a family member in itu so trying to sort some things for them. I feel like a right wally

It's ok, @BernardsarenotalwaysSaints

We're just primed for this now! I read something about 'front bleeders' on a site about periods and was ready to get annoyed and then read on and realised it wasn't referring to menstruating women as people who bleed out of their front, it meant having the kind of period where your pad needs to be angled to the front of your period!

Didn't realise there was a name for that!

angled to the front of your underwear I mean!

I knew what you meant

I think this is confusingly worded, but it is not saying what you think (but I could be wrong).

I took it to mean that for women, anaemia can be caused by periods and pregnancy (probably the most likely cause for women of childbearing age). For women whose periods have stopped it can be caused by bleeding in stomach etc.
For men it can also be caused by bleeding in stomach etc.

In the interpretation where men have periods too, it would also read as though bleeding in the stomach causes anaemia which causes the periods to stop.
But I dont think it is saying that.
It is saying instead that the bleeding in the stomach is a likely cause of the anaemia for certain patients (women whose periods have stopped and men).
It's not great wording though, needs a comma.

If you read it properly, that paragraph is talking about those who DON'T have periods, so it's saying for men (and women who don't have periods).

Some people just want to find offence in everything, bloody hell.