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Stupid shit we did as teens which might suggest powerful drugs and surgery are not the choices to be made at that time

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TheBuffster · 21/02/2021 20:59

People always arguing children 'know themselves' have the rights to access hormone blockers and surgeries because it's disrespectful to suggest they might not be emotionally mature enough to understand the long term consequences.

But does anyone else remember being an absolute plinker as a teenager? And making really stupid decisions?

Like how I was into Wicca and thought I was a witch.

Wearing knee high boots, skirt and no tights (later fishnets) in the day.

The boots were bloody pink too.

Using sun in even though my mum said it would turn my hair ginger.

Predictably accidentally dying my hair stupid colours by accident, including sick orange and traffic light red.

Drinking vodka in broad daylight and getting it taken off me by the police.

Walking home alone back from nightclubs.

The list of idiocy is endless. Thank goodness I had no access to dangerous surgery.

Anyone else?

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ToesAndFingersCrossed · 21/02/2021 23:14

We’d have been good pals I think, Buffster. I think I actually wrote I was Wiccan in a census back in my teens Blush Blush Blush

More seriously I still shudder when I remember that I used to walk home alone from nightclubs, absolutely steaming. In London.

I also ran off to a hippy commune for a fortnight and told my parents I was camping with my friends. I think my parents could have been better at parenting to be fair...

PermanentTemporary · 21/02/2021 23:24

I was all set to change my name by deed poll as soon as I was 18. Trouble was, the name I wanted to use kept changing. I think for about a year it was Ferdinanda.

I remember deciding to be a nun. Of course that used to be super common. To be fair that was pre teen, I was about 12 and it had completely worn off by the time I was 14.

I remember being immensely proud of my family heritage and thinking being part of this bunch was something to be proud of. It isn't. It's also not anything to be ashamed of. But I also can't deny that this is my heritage. Hollywood films in the past few years spend an awful lot of time banging away at the idea that family of origin is completely meaningless and probably actively damaging, while your adopted family and friends of choice in your teens and early 20s are forever and totally nurturing (see also: Spice Girls). I was really struck by it watching Guardians of the Galaxy at the weekend, also Fast and Furious and other franchises who make money from the 'group of lovable misfits' trope. In its way it's just as limiting as the 'blood is thicker than water' trope.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/02/2021 23:28

My misspent youth was centred around the church youth group, followed up by uni CU. Physically safe but...
...Obviously I'm an atheist now, my assessment is I was deluded then.

wellthatsunusual · 21/02/2021 23:28

I'd be here all night if I wrote the stupid stuff I did as a teenager. Chief amongst them being giving in to peer pressure and allowing myself to be used by boys in the hope it would make me more popular.

And I wanted to be 'different' and I absolutely hated having breasts (and I'm middle aged now and still hate them). I can see a recipe for disaster right there in those two statements if I were a teenager today. If someone had given me the option for surgery at that age I would absolutely have taken it. Without a backward glance.

MaudTheInvincible · 21/02/2021 23:38

I spent my middle teen years doing very unsafe and stupid things, got married at twenty, divorced by twenty-five. Then woke up and started a new life. My judgment for those ten years was unbelievably poor, and I look back in amazement that I got out in one piece.

PermanentTemporary · 21/02/2021 23:44

Just generally the idea that medicalisation of personality is normal - without wanting to be thoughtlessly anti Yank, it's so American focused. I keep saying that 45% of the US population is on at least one medication, and 'only' 25% of the UK population is. It's a ripe market, if you think that way.

InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 21/02/2021 23:45

I got pregnant at 16, had a termination then had what I think now was a nervous breakdown. Hated being a woman, I started taking drugs that quickly became more and more serious ending in heroin. During this time I became an androgynous punk then a goth and I thought I was a vampire / high priest Ended up with the drug squad raiding my very upper middle class parents home and then finding out I was pregnant with DD1....
I suddenly realized I was going to die if I continued the way I was going ...I got clean...

Nearly 60 now....pillar of society ...deffo a woman....and pissed off!

SapphireSeptember · 21/02/2021 23:56

I didn't do much more than a bit of shoplifting and skiving off school, but neither were wise things to be doing. The Goth phase turned out to be permanent, although the Wiccan one wasn't, and I fell in love with a wanker at 17. Mostly I floated about thinking I was some tragic figure in a song by a band I like. Grin I'm not much more grown up at 32.

Graphista · 22/02/2021 00:08

Walking home alone from clubs in mini skirts and heels and very tipsy.

Going off with various lads having just met them and merrily going to their place by taxi without a clue about where I was, having to wake and ask said lad the next morning for the address so I could order a cab home, or even worse being unable to rouse him and having to ask his flat mates! Or worse still his parents! Didn't even shag most of them! I was this contradictory mix of free spirited and prudish!

Going to job interviews in all manner of dubious places with no more knowledge about said job than a 15 word ad in a paper! Some 2 or 3 counties away

Advertising babysitting services in local newsagents on a postcard, going to said babysitting jobs having never met any of the people concerned - from the age of 14! Wtf my parents were thinking LETTING me do this I don't know!

Allowing my parents disapproval of my first fiancé and his parents too, to split us up. Lots of class issues, snobbery, insecurities (theirs!) disguised as concern for our being "too young" to know better, they were right but not in the way I thought. I was too young and insecure to stand up to them and have regretted this for the rest of my life.

Met ex at 19 married at 22 - to quote Julia roberts BIG mistake HUGE! Total rebound from the fiancé (they were total opposites) my parents very much approved of husband and liked him. I think they were as blindsided as I was by his cheating.

Pregnant at 18 by recently ex fiancé, mc but fuck knows what I'd have done if that hadn't happened! I was living in a bedsit earning fuck all and with no support network to speak of and in all likelihood would have been sacked as soon as employers knew (demanding physical job but shit pay) and made homeless once landlord knew! Didn't tell anyone until I saw dr once mc was underway who was perfunctory and not at all soothing. Told me yes pregnant yes miscarrying but it appeared to be happening naturally, prescribed painkillers and told me to go home and "let nature take its course" and when the bleeding had stopped to go back in for a check up with the nurse to ensure "it was all gone" didn't tell parents even until I was ttc with now ex husband and I was stressing out. Not unfounded as I mc again. At which point it became very clear I'd suppressed all my emotion regarding the previous mc such that I was effectively dealing with the emotional fallout of having lost 3 babies and being told I had a Gynae condition which meant I may not ever be a mother and that I needed several surgeries and treatments for there to be a slim possibility. I was a wreck!

sourdoughismyreligion · 22/02/2021 00:09

Nearly got married at 18. It was twu wuv you know. Thankfully the scales fell from my eyes before the big day and I realised what a plonker he was.

Catmaiden · 22/02/2021 00:10

God yes. I did such stupid shit as a teen, no idea how I survived. Certainly wouldn't have been mature enough to make life changing decisions like taking pb or having top surgery!

Pandoraslastchance · 22/02/2021 00:23

When my boobs appeared I became so unhappy and as I grew I became more popular with the boys. Which further separated me from the other girls.

16-18years I used to meet up with people from MSN grapevine chat room. People who I had never met before and sometimes not even spoken to them on the phone. Often I'd go alone.
I'm extremely surprised that I didn't end up raped or murdered tbh.

MuggleStudiesResearchProject · 22/02/2021 00:24

Was absolutely adamant that I never wanted children until I was 24 ish, then I wasn't so sure, and by 26 knew I very much did. First child in my early 30s, and being a mother has been the best thing in my life. But if I'd been offered the option of a sterilisation before age 24 I'd have argued for it and been very sure it was absolutely the right choice. So very, very grateful I was protected from my younger self.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 22/02/2021 00:58

I was 16 and had an affair with a 32yo married man with kids. Yes I was taken advantage of but also I was 100% convinced that he and I were meant to be and his wife was a bitch troll who was awful to him and drove him into the arms of another woman. Like, it's worrying just how much I believed it and how little empathy I had for his wife and family. I was consumed by this man, who looking back was average looking, slightly devoid of personality but good at flattery which my 16yo self craved.

We didn't sleep together, we worked together (I was a waitress he was the Head Chef) but we did have a lot of stolen kisses and fumbles in the stock room. I'd have run away with him at the time if he'd asked me.

I'm mortified that I behaved that way. It's not anything like me now and I am just so, so happy that my actions didn't hold me accountable for the rest of my life.

In the end the boss found out and I got sacked. Never saw him again except in the street. His wife never found out...I ended up briefly working with her and she's one of the nicest people I've ever known. About a year after our affair ended she left him as he did the same thing with someone else. She remarried an amazing man and he went to prison for drug dealing.

Karma bit me well and truly in the area as my exH had an affair with a teenager.

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 22/02/2021 01:01

*arse

notyourhandmaid · 22/02/2021 01:10

Having a friend group all decide they were lesbians... now almost all married to men.

Another friend group egging each other on re: self-harm and eating-disorder behaviour.

(Both in all-girls schools, different ones. But social contagion is definitely made-up by mean old hags...) Hmm

MoleSmokes · 22/02/2021 04:22

I was a “late developer” and seriously thought that I was not going to get periods and breasts like everyone else - I dreaded it and was really quite depressed and messed-up in my head when puberty finally caught up with me. I haven’t a shadow of a doubt that I would have leapt at it like a shot if I’d been told I could avoid all that by taking medication and staying an eternal tom-boy.

I was a car-mad, petrol-head, started driving on farm roads when I was 11 and on the roads when I was 14. I’d hitch hike and then when I was picked up ask if I could drive for a while, cracking on I was 17 and had passed my driving test.

I hitch-hiked everywhere and had some close shaves where I was sure I was going to get raped or murdered when the driver took weird detours or stopped in a lay-by for no reason.

I went through a manic phase when I was about 16 and used to sneak out of the house and walk all night down country lanes in the pitch dark. Got caught in a blizzard one night when there was already deep snow on the ground and thought I wasn’t going to make it back alive.

Things got even wilder when I went to university. Only really settled down into a semblance of sanity in my late 20’s.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 22/02/2021 09:33

I drank way too much as a teenager, which led to me being hit by a car. I wasn't badly injured and it didn't stop me.

I lived with my drug dealer boyfriend and did an assortment of illegal drugs. Half the time I didn't know what they were.

I'm amazed I survived unharmed, frankly

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 22/02/2021 09:49

I daren’t even start on that, Buffster. It’s always seemed blindingly obvious to me as a reason not to let teenagers have elective mastectomies, take drugs with irreversible side effects etc. Like not sending children to play on the motorway. Yet ‘responsible’ adults have been allowing it.

gardenbird48 · 22/02/2021 10:08

@MuggleStudiesResearchProject

Was absolutely adamant that I never wanted children until I was 24 ish, then I wasn't so sure, and by 26 knew I very much did. First child in my early 30s, and being a mother has been the best thing in my life. But if I'd been offered the option of a sterilisation before age 24 I'd have argued for it and been very sure it was absolutely the right choice. So very, very grateful I was protected from my younger self.
Exactly the same!! Absolutely adamant until the first week of meeting my now husband.

As a teenager I was totally nuts - I’m amazed I survived - silly drinking, silly behaviour with boys etc. Many of my friends were equally challenged on the sensible front.

I think I wasn’t in a very happy place and that helped me make some bad decisions - luckily I’ve grown up (a bit) now. If you saw me now you’d never know Grin (apart from one small underage tattoo)

OldCrone · 22/02/2021 10:12

In the end the boss found out and I got sacked.

So as a teenager you got the blame for being taken advantage of by an older man?

wellthatsunusual · 22/02/2021 10:21

@OldCrone

In the end the boss found out and I got sacked.

So as a teenager you got the blame for being taken advantage of by an older man?

A story as old as time isn't it? Sad
FannyCann · 22/02/2021 10:25

This is such a great thread. What a brilliant lot you are. My stupid shit is so pathetic in comparison....Biscuit for me.

Brokenchair1 · 22/02/2021 10:31

I was all set to leave school at 15 and move overseas. Parents persuaded me otherwise. I'm now an academic 😂 I did not make thought out decisions at that age and don't get me started on the fact the the brain isn't fully developed until mid 20s!

LunaHardy · 22/02/2021 10:35

The list is endless (and worrying!)

Playing on train tracks in early adolescence (it was a diesel line so no electricity but still had the odd train passing) cannot believe how stupid that was.
Walking home from nightclubs alone and drunk.
Going to "after parties" after nights out with friends, to total strangers places.
Gave my address to a stranger on a chat room when I was in my early teens, so he could send me a key ring.

I shudder when I think about the stupid shit I did when I was younger!