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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New career in the NHS.....am I crazy?

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fatcatonamat · 11/02/2021 16:57

Afternoon,
This is possibly more suited to AIBU but given that it concerns the whole Trans issue (specifically TW) and its impact on women I thought best to post here. I've recently applied to go to Uni in September to study adult nursing....2 interviews next week so not definite yet. I'm no spring chicken, nearly 46 and this has been a life long ambition. But the more I learn about how the NHS appears to have been captured by the whole trans ideology the more I'm worried and wondering what the fuck I'm letting myself in for. I was reading Greater Glasgow & Clyde's policy with regards to trans men on women's wards and am horrified as my reaction to this would most likely cost me my job (assuming I got in!)
Any nurses or health professionals here who believe in basic bloody biology? How do you navigate this landmine at work? I worry I'm making a mistake even considering nursing as a career now.

TIA

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Skyliner001 · 12/02/2021 18:24

😳 😂

fatcatonamat · 12/02/2021 19:12

@PurpleWh1teGreen

I'm a nurse and in 30+ years I've come across nearly as many staff as patients under the umbrella.

What I would say is that although The numbers maybe small, I have however encountered some incredibly vulnerable individuals who genuinely believed that "just one more procedure" would make them happy. These are people who have usually led difficult lives, would benefit from psychological care and deserve to be treated with same dignity and respect as any other patient.

I vehemently disagree with the pathways these vulnerable people have been funnelled down, but as individuals needing care I will always do my best.

As PP have mentioned, in practice, care happens in a sideward. I have far more issues with transgender staff caring for patients who request same sex nurses.

With regards to transgender staff treating patients who have requested same sex nurses, have you encountered that issue?
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nocoolnamesleft · 12/02/2021 20:26

If all the biologically aware people avoid working in the NHS, then there will be noone left working in the NHS who is aware of biology. Which would be pretty crap all round.

PurpleWh1teGreen · 12/02/2021 20:48

With regards to transgender staff treating patients who have requested same sex nurses, have you encountered that issue?

Again in practice, no. The HCP concerned were a junior doc on a medical team, a theatre nurse and a plaster technician. So not in roles where they would be the only people providing intimate care.

DE8ORAH · 12/02/2021 21:05

@Schmoozer

But as a registered nurse you can’t challenge something that is a protected status and expect to Maintain your registration
Being trans isn’t a protected status. It’s gender reassignment.
Gottalife · 12/02/2021 22:38

Perhaps nursing is not for you if you feel so strongly.

Professional standards of practice and behaviour for nurses, midwives and nursing associates:

1.3 avoid making assumptions and recognise diversity and individual choice

20.2 act with honesty and integrity at all times, treating people fairly and without discrimination, bullying or harassment

20.4 keep to the laws of the country in which you are practising

20.5 treat people in a way that does not take advantage of their vulnerability or cause them upset or distress

20.7 make sure you do not express your personal beliefs (including political, religious or moral beliefs) to people in an inappropriate way.

fatcatonamat · 12/02/2021 23:08

@Gottalife

Perhaps nursing is not for you if you feel so strongly.

Professional standards of practice and behaviour for nurses, midwives and nursing associates:

1.3 avoid making assumptions and recognise diversity and individual choice

20.2 act with honesty and integrity at all times, treating people fairly and without discrimination, bullying or harassment

20.4 keep to the laws of the country in which you are practising

20.5 treat people in a way that does not take advantage of their vulnerability or cause them upset or distress

20.7 make sure you do not express your personal beliefs (including political, religious or moral beliefs) to people in an inappropriate way.

Fair point.

My last job was not entirely unrelated...caring role and in close contact with people who often held very different, sometimes offensive views, compared to my own. But I always kept my thoughts to myself and sat squarely on the fence. I suppose this particular area really struck a cord because of how strongly I feel about it. If anything I was/am more concerned about any internal conflict it would cause for me rather than concerned about how I would react to an individual who identified as a TW. I've perfected my poker face and think I've always acted professionally before. Sure I can do it again and be patient focused.

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Gottalife · 13/02/2021 09:51

I'm sure you will meet with much bigger challenges than the occasional TW. Just enjoy the work and good luck to you.

Carycy · 13/02/2021 09:52

It’s not something you come across on a daily basis.

RagzReturnsRebooted · 14/02/2021 02:20

Don't let it stop you. I'm a nurse, though not on wards, so the few transgender patients I have don't require any special arrangements other than use of their preferred pronouns, which I am quite happy to do.
I still share my opinions on social media, but never in an insulting or discriminatory way (not that I would any way). I do slightly worry about the future in terms of progressive wokeness, but I'm currently in a small organisation and despite having a trans colleague, no organisational 'right think' has been dictated nor preferred pronouns mentioned.
Which is better than uni, where they were giving out pronoun badges...

fatcatonamat · 14/02/2021 16:43

Jesus Christ.....pronoun badges.....better keep on practicing that poker face!

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