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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Scott Newgent's campaign against medical transition for kids - help him

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gardenbird48 · 09/02/2021 17:57

Scott Newgent, I'm sure most of you are aware of Scott and the terrible time has had had since medically transitioning 6 years ago. It has cost Scott his health, marriage, home and career and he wants to warn children and young people (particularly girls) of the dangers they are not being warned about by the cheerleaders for medical transition.

When Scott started having medical issues after beginning transition; seven surgeries, a pulmonary embolism, an induced stress heart attack, sepsis, a 17-month recurring infection, 16 rounds of antibiotics, three weeks of daily IV antibiotics, arm reconstructive surgery, lung, heart and bladder damage, insomnia, hallucinations, PTSD, he was going to hospitals asking for help and found out that There is no structured, tested, or widely accepted baseline for transgender health care.

This is the reality that so many children and young people are racing towards without any understanding of what they are doing. It may be that Scott's case is an extreme example - but it has happened to him and there appears to be no means of preventing exactly that or worse happening to someone else. As he says, the downsides were glossed over and the upsides presented as a solution to the problem he had fitting in all his life as a butch lesbian.

This is a good article and it mentions the campaign by the transitioned people who actually have a care about the children and want to warn them about the dangers - rather than promoting unicorns and flowers.

I find it utterly baffling that people and organisations who claim to support transgender people are so invested in young people accessing medical transition. Knowing what the dangers to health are and deliberately encouraging them towards them.

Not only that but trying to prevent anyone else warning them what is ahead - it really makes me think that these organisations and people have absolutely no regard for the young people, they are purely a trojan horse for the ideology and will be discarded where they fall. We will be picking up the pieces of this for years to come.

www.newsweek.com/we-need-balance-when-it-comes-gender-dysphoric-kids-i-would-know-opinion-1567277

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risefromyourgrave · 09/02/2021 19:20

That list of medical problems is appalling, it’s a wonder Scott survived.
It’s awful that these things are not made clearer.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 09/02/2021 19:58

Poor Scott. I follow them on twitter and the full story hasn’t ever been laid out so plainly. It’s heartbreaking and just jaw dropping.

CaraDuneRedux · 09/02/2021 19:58

Scott is a brave and principled person and I hope this article is widely read.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 09/02/2021 21:01

I think this article should be compulsory reading for schools and colleges/unis, organisations who have any safeguarding policies (and those who don’t) for the young and/or vulnerable. It shows the grim reality of what is often caged in euphemistic and glorified terms.

Genesis1v27 · 09/02/2021 21:24

@CaraDuneRedux

Scott is a brave and principled person and I hope this article is widely read.
Agreed. She was sold a pack of lies.
Barracker · 10/02/2021 15:47

I have immense sympathy for what Scott has been through, and what Scott is trying to achieve.

But Scott is very confused, and so is Scott's message to others.

Scott's message is "wait until you're an adult to do this"
But Scott 'transitioned' AS AN ADULT. All those hideous problems Scott faces now as an adult, because of decisions made as an adult, but Scott still can't disavow the whole idea of 'transitioning' and still believes they are no longer a lesbian, but instead a man.
What's the message here?

Scott cannot help girls to come to terms with being girls or lesbians if Scott isn't ready for that themselves personally yet.

I think there's a problem with placing a person who still hasn't made their peace at all with the fact they are a woman (or a man) and is clinging to the dichotomy that transition is bad for children but ok for adults, or that there's nothing inherently harmful with the idea of transitioning, and that TrueTrans is real.

Extreme caution is urged when putting a person in role model position. One wouldn't encourage a person with active anorexia to coach anorexics, one would expect a stable recovery status first, and similarly, for an alcoholic to mentor other alcoholics they must be sober themselves, not still drinking. An alcoholic who denies they are an alcoholic, who said, kids, don't drink yet, look at how I've suffered, wait until you're older but alcoholism is still a valid choice for you then, perhaps is not in the right mindspace yet.

Children who want to transition will be likely to see an adult like Scott and think "you're still definitely trans though (and so am I), you're still a man, right (and I will be too), you got to transition, you're telling me to wait, but for what, I'll definitely end up like you eventually, perhaps with less surgery."

Scott is a muddle of do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do with a caveat of I'm-not-saying-what-I-did-isn't-valid and wait-until-you're-older-like-I-did.

The bottom line is Scott still is saying "I'm a man" and for many female children THAT'S the goal, whatever it takes.

gardenbird48 · 10/02/2021 17:07

Scott cannot help girls to come to terms with being girls or lesbians if Scott isn't ready for that themselves personally yet.

That’s a fair point. I hadn’t really looked at it like that. I guess that having been through so much Scott may not be particularly objective (it also sounds like his ongoing health problems may be impacting his state of mind) but I do think at least he is sending an important message of caution to children and young people.

I definitely agree that he doesn’t appear to be finding much peace yet.

He is receiving a lot of grief on Twitter for making these points in public.

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LoungeLizardLhama · 10/02/2021 17:16

I knew Scott had suffered medical problems but I had no idea the extent of them. I also follow Scott on Twitter and the impression I get is that he went into transition/surgery with a limited understanding of the possible downsides purely because people are not given enough information on side effects and complications, rather that they are sold a dream of hormone replacement (cross sex hormones) and becoming their true authentic selves, and that is what Scott is warning people of. Children and young people have no possible way of knowing the possible implications of gender reassignment surgery and drug regimens and I for one applaud Scott for trying to get that information out there.

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