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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

AITA Reddit thread

18 replies

Rockinmomma · 06/02/2021 20:04

I just saw this, read the answers and breathed a sigh of relief!
www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/ldzy4k/aita_for_telling_a_trans_person_i_dont_want_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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Rockinmomma · 06/02/2021 20:05

Information the OPs originally question was removed Hmm but the resounding response!

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dayoftheclownfish · 06/02/2021 20:27

let’s not forget that reddit banned r/gendercritical and every other GC subreddit, for example r/itsafetish

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 06/02/2021 20:34

And yet they still have Reddits that specifically state "cis-women only"

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... obviously the really degrading porn ones! [Vomit] Not the ones where women get to talk about female only experiences and call it a "woman's thread"

dayoftheclownfish · 06/02/2021 20:38

I didn’t know that! Yet another data point in this whole mystery.

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 06/02/2021 20:44

It's because they'll not have to worry about the women speaking or having opinions, only being images

Rockinmomma · 06/02/2021 20:47

I used to browse Reddit a lot, now only when I’m desperately bored
The communities on there are so fucking extreme, they all scout for tweets and rally each other
The most horrifying one I’ve seen is bimbofication.... I felt ill looking at that

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ArabellaScott · 06/02/2021 21:28

Post seems to have been removed? Comments still up, and reassuringly sensible, tho.

HubertHerbert · 06/02/2021 23:08

r/itsafetish

Thought they had renamed that r/sissies

I was looking through socialjustice101 on reddit the other day and was saddened to see a young lesbian fretting and upset over her 'hypocrisy' that she just doesn't like penises

dayoftheclownfish · 06/02/2021 23:32

It really makes you think when a thriving corner of civic debate is just ... shut down. Did nobody see this coming?

hallouminatus · 07/02/2021 00:38

ArabellaScott
Post seems to have been removed?
The post is copied further down the thread. You have to scroll quite a long way to find it, but I'll save you the trouble by pasting below:

I am a straight cis female but am not very feminine and have never been. I grew up with brothers and male neighbors so I always played with them. I wore my older brothers hand me downs, solely shopped in the boys section for toys and clothes, haven't worn a dress since I was forced to at age 2 (I screamed about it so much my parents never made me wear one again), and was happy if someone misidentified me as a boy. As I got older I caved a little to gender norms and started dressing in women's clothes but still not overly feminine. Mostly muted shirts and jeans. I never thought much about it to be honest.

I now am married to a man and we have three kids (9F, 6M, 5F). My oldest is very girly and always has been. My son is very boyish. My youngest, however, is a lot like how I was as a kid. She likes mostly "boy" things. Right now she shares a room with the 6 year old and they both have car beds. She wears a lot of clothes from the boys department. We are a big football family and she is always playing tackle football or wrestling with her brother.

I work with a trans dude. We'll call him Adam. We work in person 3 days a week and I was showing Adam some pictures of us from the snow day we had. We played outside and then made cookies. In the cookie picture the 5 year old is wearing "boy clothes" and Adam asked if she is still into boy things at her age. I said yes and he said "this is around the time I knew I was trans. Same for Maci. I can give you some resources if you want." Maci is his stepdaughter who is 10 and trans. I said, "Thanks but we don't want to label her. I was the same way and I'm cis." Adam said labels are super valuable, told me that trans youth are at risk when families don't support them, and said thinking it's a phase is the worst thing I could do. We went back in forth for a while before I told him I was done. I asked a few people about the situation and it's split pretty evenly so I wanted to ask here.

HeadPain · 07/02/2021 00:52

@HubertHerbert

r/itsafetish

Thought they had renamed that r/sissies

I was looking through socialjustice101 on reddit the other day and was saddened to see a young lesbian fretting and upset over her 'hypocrisy' that she just doesn't like penises

so odd with this trans thing that suddenly the left/libs think gays/lesbians can and should be forced to change their sexuality, it's conversion therapy/coercion and seen as acceptable and progressive.
HeadPain · 07/02/2021 01:13

@hallouminatus

ArabellaScott Post seems to have been removed? The post is copied further down the thread. You have to scroll quite a long way to find it, but I'll save you the trouble by pasting below:

I am a straight cis female but am not very feminine and have never been. I grew up with brothers and male neighbors so I always played with them. I wore my older brothers hand me downs, solely shopped in the boys section for toys and clothes, haven't worn a dress since I was forced to at age 2 (I screamed about it so much my parents never made me wear one again), and was happy if someone misidentified me as a boy. As I got older I caved a little to gender norms and started dressing in women's clothes but still not overly feminine. Mostly muted shirts and jeans. I never thought much about it to be honest.

I now am married to a man and we have three kids (9F, 6M, 5F). My oldest is very girly and always has been. My son is very boyish. My youngest, however, is a lot like how I was as a kid. She likes mostly "boy" things. Right now she shares a room with the 6 year old and they both have car beds. She wears a lot of clothes from the boys department. We are a big football family and she is always playing tackle football or wrestling with her brother.

I work with a trans dude. We'll call him Adam. We work in person 3 days a week and I was showing Adam some pictures of us from the snow day we had. We played outside and then made cookies. In the cookie picture the 5 year old is wearing "boy clothes" and Adam asked if she is still into boy things at her age. I said yes and he said "this is around the time I knew I was trans. Same for Maci. I can give you some resources if you want." Maci is his stepdaughter who is 10 and trans. I said, "Thanks but we don't want to label her. I was the same way and I'm cis." Adam said labels are super valuable, told me that trans youth are at risk when families don't support them, and said thinking it's a phase is the worst thing I could do. We went back in forth for a while before I told him I was done. I asked a few people about the situation and it's split pretty evenly so I wanted to ask here.

"Adam said labels are super valuable, told me that trans youth are at risk when families don't support them, and said thinking it's a phase is the worst thing I could do."

Christ. Shut up Adam. She's a girl. At risk of what? She is being supported/left alone to do whatever the eff she wants, regardless of gender stereotypes. Freedom. Good. Label? She doesn't need a damn label. That is pathologizing. Who cares if it's not a phase? Phase or not, girls/women can like all this stuff. Women are professionals in areas mentioned here. Wrestling, football, cars. No such thing as "boys things"/"girls things" really, it's all made up. Just leave kids/everyone alone to be themselves, as they are. They do not need to converted/transitioned to something else. Grr. Glad to hear most comments were sensible.

HeadPain · 07/02/2021 01:47

The girl can wear what she bloody wants to as well of course. "Boys clothes" ? What's that ? Girls can wear any kind of "boys clothes"

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 07/02/2021 09:41

Oh dear, well from Adam's standards I'm a transman too! Boy's name as a child, boy's clothes, played with "boy's toys", thought puberty was hell....

My daughter (4) is the same, likes "boy's clothes" as they are comfy and have pockets and she can ride her bike and climb trees wearing them. I never thought that I'd feel an attack on her ability to still do those things and have no pressure to change her body to match.

dayoftheclownfish · 07/02/2021 09:48

Seems this is more about Adam’s need for validation rather than a child who seems to be happy growing up in a loving family.

What a comment to make to a colleague who is just sharing some sweet family pictures! Can you imagine doing the same if this was about sexual orientation, as in “your 5-y. old child looks just the same as I did that age, could it be that your child is gay/lesbian/bi”? It would rightly be seen as creepy and intrusive.

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 07/02/2021 09:48

I can't believe that that Reddit post was deleted.

(Though if you see the background of some of the Reddit moderators then it's a bit eye-opening)

ArabellaScott · 07/02/2021 09:49

Thanks, halloumi!

Thelnebriati · 07/02/2021 12:22

Reddit, where you can watch people die but not say you are a lesbian.

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