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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

And the inspirational LGBXY women in DD's PD lesson were...

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MsFogi · 04/02/2021 22:08

So I happened to be walking past dd when she was doing her so-called PD lesson and the teacher put up a PP slide to show the inspirational LGB[insert any other random letters] women as Munroe Bergdorf and Jameela Jamil and a third I couldn't id before ultra-woke-dd closed the laptop. WTF?? Is this really the best the school can do in terms of inspring the women of the future? Where are the lesbians? Why a trans woman rather than a trans man (the dcs tell me because this would not be an inspirational woman but it seems to me that surely girls could draw more inspiration from a trans man than a trans woman if the T really needs to take up one of the three spots). Setting aside the whole woke agenda - surely we can offer better role models to girls than brand ambassadors for l'oreal, some actress?
Do I even bother to talk to the school? It seems to be constant Kim Kardashian and the like becuase "that is who the girls identify with blah blah blah".

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/02/2021 22:41

Schools used to try to widen pupils' horizons. My headmistress was a formidable woman and would have had no truck with today's sleb culture. I'd complain about those choices if I were you.

DaenarysStormborn · 04/02/2021 22:48

I don't you would get anywhere but I would write to the head and explain that you saw their inspirational women list and would like a full list of the the women they are recommending to vulnerable and impressionable young women. BTW we just did this is our school. Very hard to get a list no one disagrees with - e.g. our RE syllabus says Mother Teresa which is obviously controversial. Never mind the ridiculousness of having men, can you argue they have left out representatives of sexual orientation, race, disability etc? You might get further saying that you want more STEM women for instance rather than arguing against the men.

Btw 100% agree with you - I am just aware how many school staff are afraid of appearing less than perfectly woke.

MissBarbary · 04/02/2021 22:53

but it seems to me that surely girls could draw more inspiration from a trans man than a trans woman if the T really needs to take up one of the three spots)

I don't think a person who rejects being a woman is a suitable inspirational role model for girls.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 04/02/2021 22:55

I bet any “inspirational men” list would feature men who achieved actual things (& no transmen).

Inspirational women should be Nobel winners, great writers, great arts, humanitarians etc etc

I would write.

334bu · 04/02/2021 22:59

Stormy Laverie, lesbian who started the Stonewall Riot. Lesbian blood sisters who nursed, housed and literally gave blood to gay aids suffering men in the eighties. .

Sulkywoman · 04/02/2021 23:06

It is truly shattering how this ideology has been introduced into schools, and then beamed into children’s homes. Inspirational women my arse.

Cailleach1 · 04/02/2021 23:06

Yep. Imagine having Freddie McConnell as a transman being held up as an inspiration for boys. The man who gave birth to a baby (and tried to change the law to reflect that a man gave birth to a baby). That would be fairly miraculous; something they could aspire to. Even the BVM was a woman. Quite an alleged miraculous pregnancy too, though.

I don't actually swallow any of that as I know first hand what having a baby entails either BVM or the other belief.

Beamur · 04/02/2021 23:07

Jameela Jamil? Seriously. Why?
It's all just feeding into such a low bar for what passes as inspirational.

Cailleach1 · 04/02/2021 23:09

Are there any transmen who make the news for doing anything in that persona other than having a baby?

2020inhouse · 04/02/2021 23:13

So many female scientists they could choose from

For one
Professor Katie Ewer

Cailleach1 · 04/02/2021 23:23

Someone such as Katie Ewer is so pertinent to our current situation; and Dr. Özlem Türeci, one part of the couple who were behind the Pfizer vaccine.

The women who are saving the world!

HeadPain · 04/02/2021 23:58

How is Jameela Jamil LGBT?

Oh

"Jamil has been in a relationship with musician James Blake since 2015.[89][90] She came out as queer after her appointment as a judge of voguing reality series Legendary received backlash, as voguing ball culture is rooted in black and Latino LGBTQ communities in New York.[91][92][93][94]"

ha ha ha

oh yeah I remember. such bs. she claimed the most meaningless label after getting a backlash for what people viewed as her taking an LGBTQ person's place on a tv show.

Quite an interesting personal life section en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jameela_Jamil

tinylittleyou · 05/02/2021 00:22

I quite like a lot of what jameela jamil has to say (her body positivity stuff etc) but I’m genuinely curious what she means by coming out as ‘queer’ does she mean it in a gender sense, so it non-binary? Or sexuality, so is bisexual or pansexual?

HeadPain · 05/02/2021 05:27

Not my place to say and honestly I'm biased, but probably neither, imho. It can mean anything and nothing. People who just don't want to seem "boring" call themselves queer. But I looked and apparently she tweeted along the lines of sexuality, she is "on the spectrum but I do lean more towards boys". There was a link in here to the tweet, but looks like she deleted it.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51399416
She "came out" in response to the backlash, to stop it, keep her job and keep her Twitter fanbase happy. Though some didn't believe her, and even those who did still didn't think this qualified her to be a judge on the show. Then she had to apologise for "coming out" at that moment.

Sounds like she doesn't have a great relationship with the truth, and says things for attention, see "Personal Life"
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jameela_Jamil
I remember these munchausen's accusations. This doesn't cover all of it. She's made some nonsensical claims, e.g. she has said the reason her doctor didn't test her for PCOS when she was younger was because she was fat, this was apparently an example of "fatphobia". However, this doesn't make sense because being overweight is a symptom of PCOS. It seems to be regarded as a main symptom of it in fact, and it is women who are not overweight and are slim who tend to be told by doctors that they don't fit the profile for it, even if they do have it.

Unless she had a very bad unknowledgable doctor.

HeadPain · 05/02/2021 05:30

I used to like her a long time ago though, for the same reasons as you. She has done a lot of good around that topic and some others.

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