Swedish documentary says Helena Kennedy asked Julian Assange's alleged victims to drop rape charges in return for an apology!

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A Labour peer proposed that an impasse between Julian Assange and his alleged rape victims could be broken if they dropped their allegations and if the WikiLeaks founder stated publicly that his accusers were not CIA agents.

Writing to Thomas Hammarberg, the then Commissioner for Human Rights at the Council of Europe, she said: 'I had envisaged you bringing a meeting together in Sweden... and both sides seeking a solution that was mutually satisfactory with Assange making clear his contrition and publicly asserting that the women were not setting him up or part of any CIA conspiracy.

'I know that the [Swedish] Prosecution could then still seek to continue but it would be unlikely if the women said they felt honour was satisfied by a full apology and clearing of their reputations.'
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I have never understood the women who if not feminists say they support women's rights but then think there is some man whose politics they support should not be made to pay for their mistreatment of women.

And I know some will say cant trust the report because it is the DM, but if they have seen the documentary and this is what is shown, I am not in any way surprised.

Nor am I surprised that none of the left leaning Assange fan papers are reporting it.

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I think the idea that an apology is enough to hand wave it away is a terrible suggestion considering how woeful stats on rape prosecutions are.

I'm not terribly clear on the ins and outs of the Assange situation generally speaking. Why is he in a UK prison and what charges is he held on? Can he not be sent to Sweden? Why is the UK stopping the US extraditing him?

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I think the idea that an apology is enough to hand wave it away is a terrible suggestion considering how woeful stats on rape prosecutions are.

I'm not terribly clear on the ins and outs of the Assange situation generally speaking. Why is he in a UK prison and what charges is he held on? Can he not be sent to Sweden? Why is the UK stopping the US extraditing him?

I think because we don't extradite to countries with the death penalty, especially for whistle blowing.

No in fact the judge found that the US had a good case, but ruled against extradition because of his fragile mental state meant US prison would be too hard for him! Yet on the other hand Chelsea Manning who did actually take huge risks, had the guts to fact court proceedings and ended up in prison. And yet big brave Assange is prepared to stand by his supposedly bravve actions. Not forgetting they used the gross arguement of his right to family life. The 2 children conceived during the time he hide away in the Embassy. Funnily enough he didn't complain about not having a family life whilst he was there.

Anyhow. Basically Assange was accused of sexual assault and probably rape whist in Sweden over 10 years ago. He was meant to turn up for questioning (which could have resulted in no charges because in fact Sweden had as very low level of rape convictions.). But he ran away.

A European arrest warrant was issued. He was eventually caught here in the UK (we were still part of the EU). He was given bail but skipped bail to hide in the Ecadorian Embassy. (losing his friends loads of money). After how ever many years if was of imposing himself of the Embassy they basically kicked him out and he was re-arrested. And as said above found liable to be extracited, but not enforced because of his fragile mental state.

Assange apostles say there was never any sexual impropriaty. The two women were CIA stooges.

Loads of feminists stood up for them and their rights, even if they thought that what he had done at Wikileaks was right.

But a lot of women were all on about how their poor hero had been entrapped by these women, or as Helena Kennedy seems to have been saying, even if he did wrong he shouldn't be punished because he is such a special person. Yuk.

Not only is he not special, he doesn't even have the guts to stand up for his so called principles.

If you are interested here are all the threads about him www.mumsnet.com/SearchArch?mustmatch=Assange&dontmatch=&nickname=&src_displ_option=s_t_d_t&fromDate=&toDate=&topicmode=chs&chosentops=5365

And yet big brave Assange is NOT prepared to stand by his supposedly bravve actions.

Thanks for the explanation.

This doesn’t really fit with the Swedish allegations but there were developments on the US side in December. A whistleblower released an audiotape of a 75 minute conversation between Assange and a State Dept Attorney in 2011.

EXCLUSIVE: Project Veritas Releases Audio of Assange Warning U.S. Government of Damaging Leak of Classified Information … ‘In Case Any Individuals Who Haven't Been Warned That They Should Be Warned’
Project Veritas, Dec 16 2020

Extracts

Project Veritas released today an exclusive audio tape of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange speaking in 2011 with State Department attorney Cliff Johnson, pleading with the government lawyer to act to contain the release of information classified by the U.S. government.

During the 75-minute conversation, Assange, who initiated the call, said to Johnson that WikiLeaks is very concerned that classified information from the State Department is about to be released—outside of its control by a rogue former employee, who stole the information in order to establish his own rival media outlet.

“Yes, so the situation is that we have intelligence that the State Department Database Archive of 250,000 diplomatic cables including declassified cables is being spread around and is to the degree that we believe that within the next few days it will become public,” said Assange.

“We're not sure but the timing could be imminently or within the next few days to a week and there may be some possibility to stop it,” he said.

Assange said to Johnson that in the past WikiLeaks only released unclassified State Department, but the next tranche from Wikileaks would have classified information with sensitive information redacted.

However, he said, he was alerting the U.S. government that the rogue former employee would not take care to protect sensitive information and that unless something was done to stop him—that release was days or hours away.

Continued (including video and full audio of phone call) at

www.projectveritas.com/news/exclusive-project-veritas-releases-audio-of-assange-warning-u-s-government/

The audiotape was released by a whistleblower to Project Veritas as part of a campaign to try to persuade Trump to pardon Assange on his way out of the Whitehouse.

Not sure if relevant but isn’t Kennedy a TWAW luvvie human rights lawyer?

Julian Assange is the type of creepy man who "hides in plain sight".

I really don't understand how anyone on the left can admire this man.

That was my recollection too Daca:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3673781-helena-kennedy-qc

I recall being told or reading somewhere that Helena Kennedy, in her early days as a barrister, represented a transwoman (possibly one who had gone through full surgical transition as people did those days) and got on very well with them. I seem recall her being on record as saying that that case 'set' her views on transgender issues and that she is of the TWAW/ born in the wrong body persuasion.

I think Helena Kennedy is another woman with a fantastic feminist career who'll have her reputation tarnished for posterity by this. I used to recommend Eve was Framed as an important read. It's just one small sadness of many. Too many people are allowing one relationship with a transperson to obscure the bigger picture.

This is shocking, if true. I don't think it undoes Helena Kennedy's generally excellent feminist work. She's done a hell of a lot more than most.

Those claims against Assange should have been properly tested in court.

Agreed - what ever the rights and wrongs of Assange's career as a "journalist" it is unacceptable that anyone, let alone another woman, should suggest women alleging rape should give up the right to justice to allow a man not to have his career impeded.

How disappointing of Helena Kennedy, I used to rate her and I like Eve was Framed.
He’s contemptible.