Scots council referral for parents who ‘fail’ to support trans child, Times Scotland

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Scary:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7fa67a9e-5dbc-11eb-9757-b51ef053b3e2?shareToken=b1411550369509a560b31f369988466a

Very.

I know that happened in Australia and with Scotland like it is I'm not surprised. There was that Bill wants there, where each child was to be assigned a person, outside the family, as some kind of guardian, by government/councils? Sorry I'm foggy in details, I was glad it didn't pass as it seemed an attempt at breaking family bonds.

Some parents are shit but I imagine teachers are reporting parents who don't use pronouns and chosen names but given names, i.e, the name they, the parents chose at birth!

Unbelievable overreach.

Wow. Worrying that withdrawn guidance us still being used.

The Named Person scheme OhHolyJesus

Thank fuck the Named Person scheme was canned.

That LGBT Scotland guidance was supposed to be removed from schools however. That lot need investigating.

That's really scary. Does any know how to find out if an LA is still using the guidance? Would like to know if my LA are.

"Evidence that parents in Scotland have been referred to local authorities for “failing” to support a transgender child has provoked a furious reaction from campaigners.
Teachers, including those in primary schools, have made dozens of referrals under guidance that encourages schools to involve the council if there are concerns that a child thought to be experiencing gender dysphoria is not being supported at home."

This is so sinister. Using teachers as gatekeepers after what, a day of stonewall training?

Ifyourfeelimgsinister You can find out if your Council endorses the guidance on p.58 here. Doesn’t necessarily mean your Council does or doesn’t use it, but is a starting point (half the Scottish Councils endorse it)

www.lgbtyouth.org.uk/media/1344/supporting-transgender-young-people.pdf

Brilliant, thanks rogdmum. My council is on that list. I need to look into this a bit more, I think.

Just had a look at the guidance - so on school trips, transgender young people are encouraged to share rooms with children who share their gender identity? And schools are not expected to share this info with parents - so my high school age DD could be sharing space with a boy, and that's ok? Wtf.

Oh yes, they are absolutely awful. In reality I don’t know how many schools would put boys in with girls- I’d like to think they would be sensible and separate by sex or sort individual accommodation. Have you see the transcript of their teacher training? Affirming pupils behind parents backs etc in the Q&As: forwomen.scot/13/12/2020/george-watsons-college-staff-transgender-training/

I hadn't seen that - pretty concerning. If I had kids there, I would definitely be asking questions about that.

Bet I can guess what kids of “support” parents are supposed to give FFS like telling the parents of an anorexia sufferer to help them diet

It is terrifying that nearly two years after ministers concluded this guidance was "not legal", it is still in school. LGBT Youth are claiming that it will be officially adopted in the transcript. Did they and Shirley Anne Somerville think if they procrastinated long enough it would all blow over and we'd all forget?

Trying to circumvent parental consent is surely a sign of cult behaviour, no?

Have these sorts of policies and sanctions (removing children from their homes) ever been applied in Scotland for any remotely comparable reason?

For example:

• parents refusing to acknowledge or believe that a child might be homosexual if they say that they are gay or a lesbian?

• parents refusing to acknowledge or believe a child if they say they have found or lost religious faith or want to follow a particular religion?

• parents refusing to acknowledge or believe a child who self-diagnoses themselves with a physical or mental health condition?

• parents setting “ground rules” for who the child may socialise with?

Getting into tricky waters with that last one but I am thinking in terms of benevolent decisions relating to well-founded concerns about safeguarding.

I hesitate to add anything about political views, given the political situation in Scotland.

Apart from the last one (social contact) I am trying to stick to examples where there is no attempt to obstruct a child’s actions, ie. where the parents allow the child autonomy but do not provide active support.

I am also trying to steer clear of examples where the child would be generally understood to be self-harming, eg. cutting or starving themselves.

Is the Scottish State given to interfering in family life and removing parental responsibility in these sorts of circumstances? Is this already a cultural norm or does what is happening here transgress existing cultural norms?

Blimey! I’ve just remembered the “Satanic Panic”!

Orkney 30 years ago, Social Workers rendered deranged and imbued with a “Saviour Complex”, after being indoctrinated by self-identified “experts” riding the latest cod-psychology gravy train.

”Orkney child sex abuse scandal: 20 years since ordeal that horrified a nation”
Article posted 4 April 2011

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/real-life/orkney-child-sex-abuse-scandal-1099361

The lessons from that debacle have clearly been forgotten.

”Recent Satanic Abuse Claims In Scotland”
March 2016

bfms.org.uk/recent-satanic-abuse-claims-in-scotland/

I am also trying to think of an equivalent scenario where a school would act on a child’s self-identification without informing the parents. Maybe religion?

Say, a Jewish or Sikh (pick a religion or atheism) child wants to be Christian like her best friend, so the school arranges for her to be baptised, confirmed and given a Saint’s name?

That one is easier to imagine if you suppose that the school is faith-based, with an evangelical bent or missionary zeal. Mmmmm