Guido Fawkes gender critical?

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I appreciate the politics of the account are erm interesting at times but this popped into my timeline and is worth a look. Littered with the most blunt of blunt replies. (Yesterday but I couldn't see a thread elsewhere.)
twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/1351218034837495811

He does not buy the bullshit.

You do not have to be any kind of feminist to realise this is all twaddle.

Very few people really believe TWAW

I agree. I don't think this type of person is "gender critical" which I see as a more active position speaking out against the creep of gender identity ideology into institutions and policy.

Its just that they don't believe in gender identity ideology. Like most people.

Scepticism is scepticism. Bullshit is bullshit.

I wouldn’t call every critic of genderism ‘gender critical’. Although genderism is sexist with a self congratulatory veneer of progressivism, mainstream Tory thinking (like Guido Fawkes’ blog) is very often also sexist too. (As is Labour thinking, and Lib Dem and the Greens, so pretty much all the voting options right now )

I’ve been reading Guido on and off over the years and it’s often preoccupied with women as being patriarchally fuckable or not, so ‘totty’ (in the kindest descriptions.. eg his ‘TottyWatch’ series). It covers lesbian issues for titillation and so on. The BTL comments about women are often vile. No real engagement with women’s issues.

Guido Fawkes writers just dislike wokeness. That’s a widespread right wing view. If there are some eventual benefits to women, girls, or safeguarding of right wingers making any progress with that view, then those benefits are largely incidental. There could equally be other harms arising to women if they gain any traction, because the patriarchal thinking is still entrenched- hence many women still feeling politically ‘homeless’ and feeling we need to keep re-stating a women’s agenda whoever is in political ascendancy at any time.

You do not have to be any kind of feminist to realise this is all twaddle.

Quite. Nobody actually believes it's possible to change sex. Some people pretend to believe in it and then perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify it. Why? Because peer pressure is huge - if you're on the left, the most important thing is to believe what everyone else on the left believes, not to think for yourself.

On the other hand, there is absolutely no peer pressure on the right to believe that it's possible to change sex, therefore for the most part they don't pretend to believe it.

They love a 'PC gone mad' story but that's about it.

Tom Harwood:
"It's a disgrace that Maya Forstater lost her job as a result of tweeting out a bad opinion.
Btw gender self-ID is good and trans exclusionary radical feminists opposing it show themselves up for an astounding lack of knowledge as to the broken system at the moment"

mobile.twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1126120928872673286

That was two years ago, he may have changed his opinion since then.

I think Guido is just using a belief in something which is obviously batshit as a stick to beat the left with.

I recommend watching the clip^ for Tom's hilariously clueless take on feminists and self id.

"The really ironic thing..."

And in the replies isa video of Joe Biden saying people should go to the prison that matches their identity.

twitter.com/NorfolkGTI/status/1351220616435822593?s=20

They've covered Germaine Greer cancellation stories before.

Thanks for the knowledgeable responses. I found it interesting it was the crime/prisons aspect that he chose. I assume the account following is predominantly middle class right-wing males?

I found it interesting it was the crime/prisons aspect that he chose

The clue is in the second tweet where they (rightly) ridicule Lisa Nandy. They want to pin it all on the 'left', but as I pointed out their senior reporter also believes that transwomen are women and self-id is a good thing. Those were his actual words.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I agree. I don't think this type of person is "gender critical" which I see as a more active position speaking out against the creep of gender identity ideology into institutions and policy.

Its just that they don't believe in gender identity ideology. Like most people.

Really good distinction, hadn't thought of it in that way.

@Ereshkigalangcleg

I agree. I don't think this type of person is "gender critical" which I see as a more active position speaking out against the creep of gender identity ideology into institutions and policy.

Its just that they don't believe in gender identity ideology. Like most people.

This is so true. And it's neither a coincidence nor a conspiracy when politically-opposed people can agree on something so basic and self-evident.

I always thought that "gender critical" meant being critical of gender roles, believing that gender roles are a social construct and that they are a way of oppressing women, and by extension disagreeing with gender ideology.
Not that it meant just critical of gender identity/gender ideology? Have I misunderstood?

That's how I understand gender critical as well

@ValancyRedfern

That's how I understand gender critical as well

Correct 😊

I would see that as "gender critical feminism". I see "gender critical" as being about transgenderism, but that some of it is grounded in feminism. I guess we all have different ways of understanding and I think people are legitimately critical of gender identity ideology without necessarily having a feminist analysis of it. It's important to acknowledge this. Maybe we need a better overarching term, I currently use "gender critical".

it's neither a coincidence nor a conspiracy when politically-opposed people can agree on something so basic and self-evident.

Beautifully put.

I see that Eddie Izzard complained about being bullied by some teenage girls who asked him what he was doing in their loo. Has he ever been beaten or raped? If he wants to be a woman, he'd better sign up for the full package.

I read that Izzard piece. I'd have liked him to be have been asked to imagine the same event from the point of view of the girls but it was not to be.

I'd like to ask him if he knows there's more to being a woman than wearing a dress and heels and putting on make up. Of course he doesn't as he still has his tackle.

I was attending a college before lockdown. It's all mixed loos now. They've taken the main door off so you can see right in. I suppose this to cover themselves if there are any assaults.

Reasons why people say TWAW:

1. They like woke cookies - 31%
2. It furthers their career (may be combined with 1. above) - 29%
3. It damages their careers not to or they’re scared of being cancelled 22%
4. They once met a lovely Transwomen called Ann, who like knitting and she was harmless 17.9%
5. They actually believe it 0.1%

My point being no one really believes it but it’s very hard to speak out